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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » Haters » 2 weeks ago
CD is too...fat
In a peculiar way, that is a good word. As I've always said, it represents the years that were spent working on it, all the personnel and the eras it bypassed.
I like it as a record, but it is not your typical natural sounding record, and it's good in a dysfunctional sort of way. We all know it's history so it's a different listen from our perspective, whether u like it or not
#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Last Rock Stars script » 3 weeks ago
I think GN'R were much in demand in the early days, it was through them that Faster Pussycat got exposure to the record company's and they almost mucked up their musical presentation when record execs went too see them and sign them. I think Pussycat matured over time, the 1991 album was good, but by then grunge had taken over. It was expected that rock would evolve with bands like T ride and Saigon Kick, but it all disappeared quite quickly
#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 4 weeks ago
sp1at wrote:Just random musings, not read the whole thread.
From O Globo, Axl interview, Jan 2001
"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"
So I'm guessing Monsters/Soul Monster(?) was written pre 2001
Also, could Elvis and the Monster of Soul be Me and my Elvis, and Soul Monster as one song. I don't know if that works
I'd say The General is the one about child abuse. I always thought it didn't have vocals at that time because when Belltrami worked on it in October of 02 it was an instrumental, but the song being about abuse & being mentioned in January of 01 suggests that it may have had lyrics at that point after all.
Maybe he just had not recorded them yet, or maybe they were already done and he just chose to take the instrumentals to Beltrami. Either way this points to the song existing in the year 2000, which is 2 years earlier than we had proof of before.
Cool. It sounds like 18 songs were done, or existed in some way at this point. I suppose if Brain joined in late 2000, that's a quick turnaround for a song.
I was actually going back to look at Oklahoma. There were sessions in 95/96, then it sounds like Axl did no more vocals until Youth joined in 98/99, then Dave Dominguez came, short stay, then Sean Beavan. There was mention somewhere that pre-CD songs will get carried forward, so I'm just interested in that sense
#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 4 weeks ago
Just random musings, not read the whole thread.
From O Globo, Axl interview, Jan 2001
"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"
So I'm guessing Monsters/Soul Monster(?) was written pre 2001
Also, could Elvis and the Monster of Soul be Me and my Elvis, and Soul Monster as one song. I don't know if that works
#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 4 weeks ago
Gagarin wrote:Where did these 2 leaks pop up first? Just an anon poster?
They leaked here. The OP of this thread.
Good to see you back.
Yeah... where's Mike Clink indeed...or anyone who could mix this properly.
, this feels like a genuine gift to the hardcore fans and a bit of a bow on the CD era. Who knows whether we actually get Atlas in the future, or more CD era goodies like SOG, but we've basically gotten all the 'big guns' of CD2.
I also think this release is wrapping up the CD era. I'm hoping for one more but it's doubtful.
There's two big guns left...
Oklahoma and Seven
After that it's Slim Pickens....
I have a feeling that Oklahoma will be one that gets carried forward as it predates CD.
#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 4 weeks ago
Where did these 2 leaks pop up first? Just an anon poster?
Three things to consider
If it was a limited vinyl only release, then the thinking would be that it would leak anyway
Secondly, if you leak lesser quality versions, they swamp the Internet before the better versions come out
Lastly, what reads better on news sites, the last minute cancellation of the vinyl, or the leaks. Money comes from touring, the last thing the band needs is a story about last minute cancellations, especially if ur investing hundreds in a ticket
#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » The supposed trilogy! Was it complete?...or was it smoke? » 11 weeks ago
I think the Key East info was fake.
Alot of the early fake information, going back 20 years, originated from Florida and the name Key East implies Florida.
There was a female student who worked in the studio at the time, I can't remember her name. Also, Merck said years ago there was about 2 albums of 'finished' material and other unfinished material, so I think this was used as the basis for the fake info
#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas Shrugged (2023 ) - Rumour » 14 weeks ago
Did any of you post this on reddit?
https://preview.redd.it/votb6cp5pnjb1.p … 4e621b9182
Seems to be from 4chan i'm assuming this is BS but thought i'd post it coz ... you never know.
I thought Thyme was a standalone piece attached to another song
And, again, if this was known there'd be a record of it somewhere
#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 14 weeks ago
I’m actually interested in 2004. That’s when they were planning more shows and Bucket quit. I wonder how close the album was at that time because, imo, I think Axl spent the next 2 years trying to get Bucket back. And perhaps even after Ron was in the band.
I'm not 100% sure, but wasn't 2004 when the funding got cut for the album, and everything came to a standstill.
#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 14 weeks ago
Even more surreal is Perhaps getting top billing , artwork, merch, video, etc
The General will be just those words on perhaps artwork #2Even a press release claims Perhaps is tne first new song the reunion 3 have written?
They added slash n duff to Absurd & Hardskool.
Why pick song 3 as the line in the sand?
The first 2 were technically new songs according to its title.
Perhaps is not, and probably the least new content of the 3Kinda reminds how in the US, the first commercially released version of the
"Civil War" single was a B-side to Terminator 2 & YCBM
It's the one we haven't heard, so it's not a b side, it's marketing.
