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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 27 hours ago
Shame we will probably never see this one
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Random update on this probably not worthy of it's own thread, at least yet.
A few years back I looked into Iron Mountain and stumbled on that video of the Beer & Cigarette ADAT being scanned whilst I was looking into how GN'Rs vault access works. Anyway I mentioned at the time there was a plan for a TV series on Iron Mountain in the early works, well work has moved on and here is more information...
https://newnoisemagazine.com/news-cnn-a … ry-series/
CNN and Universal Music Group have joined forces to launch a new television series which will premiere later this year. American comedian and actor Fred Armisen will be serving the show as a host. At this moment, no name for the show has been revealed. The show will feature many unreleased behind-the-scenes moments from UMG’s huge music archives. Pioneering artists such as Nirvana, Guns N’ Roses, and others will be featured in the show. It will showcase pop culture’s crucial moments and stories of legendary artists and songwriters who have made incredible impact in the history of music.
The vaults of UMG is located in Boyers, Pennsylvania, in a 220 feet underground former limestone mine. It holds thousands of iconic antiquities such as original recordings, master tapings, unreleased photos, alternative album art, and unreleased live recordings.
Armisen made the following statement at UMG’s “Music Is Universal” showcase:
“I’m honored, and I can’t wait to get started with this project. I want to move into that vault! I hope we get to dive in, deeper and deeper, into these recordings.”
He added:
“And I also want to say that to Universal Music Group that whenever you put out boxed sets with the demos and everything on them, I buy all of it! For real, I buy the LPs and CDs, because I want both collections. I’m really honored, and thank you so much for having me—I can’t wait to get started.”
The show will be a unique experience for music enthusiasts. Details regarding the show will be revealed soon.
As I recall the early idea was to have a single episodes based around an individual bands (eg) ep 1 The who, ep 2 gnr and so forth , can't say if that's still the case or not or if there stuff will be featured over several episodes, we shall see I guess.
#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 29 hours ago
Shacklermyrye wrote:who can tell me if they remember this...?
"and they say the stars don't look the same, I may have changed yet I have my soul to claim"
I know it was allegedly written by the same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before it was released although that's not entirely proven I don't think.
I havn't thought about this for years but If they are real lyrics, surely the word soul would suggest Soulmonster? If I remember right the same person was the first to mention In This Grave
So Demolition posted those lyrics about a Soul To Claim on htgth ? The Same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry in 2007 on htgth ?
If that's the case wouldn't i and few others be right that Monsters isn't Soul Monster ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Once again kudos to you @shacklermyrye and props to you @guts for remembering the source the lyrics all those years later.
@sp1at you also said
Beltrami told someone on my site years ago that Seven was based on the movie of the same name."
If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? (Page 49) / Guns N' Roses / GNR Evolution - Guns N Roses ForumSeven is film about the 7 deadly sins.
So far the only cd era songs not counting 4 kohd versions with religous overtones are Oh My God and State Of Grace. Since we know Seven isn't Oh My God is logical to assume I'm correct with my theory that Seven is State Of Grace ?
Man I had forgotten about those lyrics completely lol, that post of mine must be from very early in this thread somewhere.
I would need to look into the whole thing again to be sure, but the way I recall it, it was same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before release that posted those. People who remember it seemed to assume he was bullshitting as when Monsters leaked it didn't have those lyrics, but obviously knowing the lyrics to Sorry before they were out there suggests this poster either had heard or had actual stuff. Who knows maybe it was Sebastian Bach lol
When Monsters leaked I knew at least that the word Monsters was involved as just like Evader I had spent hours pulling the audio from the VIP_CELL clip & Monster was pretty much the only word I got right. I probably should have twigged that the song wasn't actually The General at all, but we all believed it was as GNR twitter had stated that intro music for gigs was mostly The General..
Anyway I understand that people are split on if they were once upon a time part of the same song or not. I don't know for sure, but I do know that the version of Monsters that leaked is like a structurally butchered version of what it once was, and should have been.
It's a shame we never got that version but you can always trust GN'R to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 5 days ago
In November of 1999 Rolling stone were played several songs from the Chinese democracy session's, they were also played an instrumental of Oklahoma.
Them being played just an instrumental, when they were played other songs that did have vocals suggests to me that none were recorded in 99 at all. The version that is out there is from March 2000 and obviously doesn't have any either.
But if you consider it was inspired by the bombing, (same week Izzy ect were writing Ocean ect) then that suggests the spark of the song came from Axl and not other members. That to me means it's likely he had a few lyrics for it but probably not all lyrics for it and just had not recorded them yet.
That he played it for magazines suggests he might have had more confidence in it than other songs they had at the time though, as I think aside from Atlas Shrugged all the other songs wound up on CD.
#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 5 days ago
Well if Quick Song is Cuban Skies then Mister Saint Laurent can add another feather to his cap.
Funny you mention the military drum roll sound @Shacklermyrye on this very forum https://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic. … 10365&p=15 @misterID a friend of Mister Saint Laurent claims that Cuban Skies was played and identified by Mister Saint Laurent in chat. Also in the thread Cuban Skies is described as having a military style drum roll.
Also flightly off topic but not worthy of it's own thread...
I also listened to Oklahoma again.
We know that song was almost complete when they went into Rumbo January 98, when I listened this time it stood out that whilst the drumming is either Freese or Brain (I think Freese?) The drum rolls and arrangement screams Sorum to me. Obviously Sorum was there until 97, with Riggs filling in for him when he was on tour. It's obviously likely that Sorum worked on that song before leaving. I wonder if the reason we never got it was so as to deny him any form of credit. Him being listed as an additional musician in the Live Era record possibly hints that may be the case, at least to me.
#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 7 days ago
I listened to the older version of Quick Song today for the first time in ages, the version on Rough Mix CD 2.
The intro drum roll sounds somewhat like a machine gun, at least to me.
I wonder if that was intentional or not, either way later versions have that intro removed so I guess they decided against it
#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 8 days ago
Given Silkworms was renamed Absurd, Hardschool - Hardskool and Nothing' - Nothin' then I wouldn't be surprised that if Quicksong was released (which I doubt) that it would be renamed Q Song.
It's obviously an Axl choice of course, I mean look at how he spelled the word Nothing back in the 80's

#7 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 2 weeks ago
Anyone watching the new season of Dark Side of the Ring?
It's been pretty good so far. Big Bossman and The Renegade the best episodes so far.
While I never liked Jeff Jarrett and cared nothing about TNA, I actually enjoyed his episodes. You get the entire history in one show.
Just starting it. Only seen the first TNA episode so far and preferred that to the whole of last season. Will watch more eps this week for sure
#8 Guns N' Roses » 1986 Rehearsal Leak » 6 weeks ago
- Shacklermyrye
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This has made it's way out there. Despite what someone in the youtube comments claims it is clearly real.
0:00 - Move to the City (Take 1 - With Axl)
3:33 - Banter/Intermission
5:08 - Nightrain (Take 1 - Instrumental)
10:11 - My Michelle (Instrumental)
11:49 - Move to the City (Take 2 - Instrumental)
16:40 - Out Ta Get Me (With Axl)
21:06 - Move to the City (Take 3 - With Axl)
22:03 - Nightrain (Take 2 - With Axl)
22:32 - Rocket Queen (With Axl)
I suspect this was one of the other items purchased from the locker by a well known collector that was not involved with the CD era stuff.
Brasky just to clarify I did not post this first, occasionally browse Mygnr and saw it there, posted by NelvinHigby.
Man 14:30 seconds in the part Izzy plays on Move To The City screams Hollywood rose
#9 Guns N' Roses » Doug Goldstein RIP » 9 weeks ago
- Shacklermyrye
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Passed away in his sleep according to Brando
https://www.facebook.com/TheAFDShow/pos … 178285217/
Main body of text from link above............
Hey everyone - some very sad news to report. Doug Goldstein, a longtime manager of Guns N' Roses, has passed away. Doug was with GN'R and Axl for 17 years. Appetite until 2004.
I was informed yesterday by Craig Duswalt, Axl's former assistant. Craig and I just recorded an episode together talking about Doug and remembering the good times. He hasn't done an interview in 12 years. (...and is the other mustached man in the photos fyi)
Needless to say, I'm in shock and saddened. Many of you know that a few years ago, Doug and I were working on his autobiography together. Once others tried to get their hands on the project, it didn't end well. At the time, I felt betrayed. I was wrong. What I used to think was a waste of time writing a book that never happened, I now cherish the hours of conversation with Doug.
Doug was ALWAYS kind and supportive of me. He made me feel good about myself, ALWAYS. I took a rejection from a publisher too hard, and it wasn't Doug's fault. We did reconcile, but our friendship was never sadly the same.
My heart goes out to his family and friends, especially his 2 sons Jake and Eli. He loved those boys more than anything.
Rest in peace, Dougie. ?

