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#1051 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR - VEGAS, T-Mobile Arena Show, 4/8 » 552 weeks ago

I gotta imagine someone will come to my defense in this one smile

#1052 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR - VEGAS, T-Mobile Arena Show, 4/8 » 552 weeks ago

apex-twin wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

But the point brought forth was wes arkeen...

Uh huh. I mentioned West as someone whose song is a mainstay in the setlist, but he's not in the band (nor ever was). ISO is both a West and Guns song, I think. This suggests the concept of a Guns song can extend beyond any given lineup - in this case, AFD5.

Any definitive Slash song (take your pick) performed in '01-'14 was still a Guns song. And Robin was in Guns, so whatever is said of Better now should be reflected to what was said about SCOM or whatever back in his day.

This I feel is the same with Better, CD and TIL now. They sprang from the CD era and were written certain folks, incl. Axl. They were Guns songs then and they are Guns songs now. Like ISO, they can be adopted by the core trio and amalgamated into any setlist without a hitch.

If anything, they have been redeemed somewhat, as they are free from the shadow of the $13 Million (and then some) album and can simply exist as Guns songs.

As for Robin, I pined for him all the way from 2009 to 2014. He should've had been there, because he brought a lot of soul to the CD band.

Did Wes play anything meaningful on ISE? Robin wrote and played on Better.

#1053 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR - VEGAS, T-Mobile Arena Show, 4/8 » 552 weeks ago

apex-twin wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

Apples and oranges...one actually played in the band.

But if we go down to that, we face the fact that Slash's songs were heavily featured in 2001-14.
Those songs were always 'his' as much as Better will always be 'Robin's'.

Where does this leave us Finck aficionados? For one, we can rejoice that Robin's song is still alive.
Think about it - Axl and Slash finally reunite after 23 years and they both feel Better is worthy of playing.

Without knowing any better, better, I have a feeling that brought a smile on Robin's face. smile

But the point brought forth was wes arkeen...

#1054 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR - VEGAS, T-Mobile Arena Show, 4/8 » 552 weeks ago

Apples and oranges...one actually played in the band.

#1055 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR - VEGAS, T-Mobile Arena Show, 4/8 » 552 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Better always lacked ONE ingredient. It wanted to be a hit, it begged for it...but it was too abrasive, especially that horrid mix on the album.

Well...it now has that ingredient it needed. I wish Better had been saved and we'd be hearing it now or in the future for the first time.

Now I'm glad CD II never came out. He was smart to just keep it to himself. Now it has a chance at redemption.

Better, as it was, if it were slash playing the exact same notes on guitar, would have been a hit.

But also, fact is, Robin wrote Better. If there is no Robin, there is no better.

Side note - just told casuals at the bar on Red Sox opening day that gnr played coma and they couldn't believe it. I immediately played it on TouchTunes of course.

#1056 Re: Guns N' Roses » SG's and other EVO member's Videos from the Vegas Shows » 552 weeks ago

One of the Troubador reviews gave a pretty spot on description of the intro so that's how I knew at least.

Also, as a best practice, anytime you think you're hearing a new track, just assume it's a solo or a cover. You will never be wrong smile

#1057 Re: Guns N' Roses » SG's and other EVO member's Videos from the Vegas Shows » 552 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Thanks for the videos Smoking.

Did you think when they played the Better Intro on the first night they were playing a new track or jamming?

Speaking for myself, the second I heard the drumbeat I knew it was Better.

Before I think Rocket Queen, they played a riff that sounded like the Riad intro...but I was wrong.

#1060 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR - VEGAS, T-Mobile Arena Show, 4/8 » 552 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

My phone is going to die soon. Trying to arrange a meet-up with sg after the show.

Thanks for the invite guys!!! smile

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