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#1121 Re: Guns N' Roses » The year I learned how to stop caring and love the wait » 916 weeks ago

My main gripe is with the fact GN'R seem to be doing sweet f a or at least thats how it seems.

Again, just a little clarity from the A - Man would go a mile.

#1122 Re: Guns N' Roses » The year I learned how to stop caring and love the wait » 916 weeks ago

Consider this a minor rant. Here's what 'news' we've had over the last few days:

Richard's Tour Dates
Dizzy's new Myspace / Tourdates
Bumblefoots new solo album

Now I have nothing against any of these people. And they haven't been posting or pushing their projects on any of the forums to my knowledge.

But its all getting a bit boring. You go to the websites to read about GN'R and whats happening, and all you get is info about side projects. At least when there was complete silence you had the perception they might be doing something with GNR.

I'm just not feeling GNR the band at the moment, just a collection of musicians. I think we all know thats pretty much been the case for a long time, but now more than ever I'm failing to see the point in the whole thing. Espacially as they can't talk about GNR.

Hopefully someone will come clean soon. I really want this to work, but even for the most ardent of fans its hard to keep interest.

#1123 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dizzy's new myspaces » 916 weeks ago

Can't get to myspace at work...whens the tour?

#1124 Re: Guns N' Roses » Yes it's a what will GNR do poll ...humor me LOL » 916 weeks ago

What I would like

Some sort of update
Another leak(s)
Chinese Democracy
Tour

More likely

Some sort of update
Another leak(s)
Tour

Worst case scenario

Silence.

#1125 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin » 916 weeks ago

Setlist so far...they even played Stairway!

'Good Times Bad Times'
"The set started with a clip from 'The Song Remains The Same' DVD with an American news clip telling of they broke The Beatles' attendance record for a gig in 1973 in California. Simple stage set, video screen behind the band."

'Ramble On'
"'Ramble On' done in extremely slow, bluesy manner, with shards of electric guitar from Jimmy Page."

'Black Dog'
"Page wearing dark shades, quite muddy sound. Crowd singing the 'ah-ah' bits back at Plant."

'In My Time Of Dying'
"Page is playing bottleneck guitar. Plant spoke for the first time before song, saying 'Good evening'."

'For Your Life'
"That's not something you get to hear often these days, Led Zeppelin giving a song its live debut."

'Trampled Under Foot'
"Before starting Plant told the crowd it was the band's attempt to sound like Robert Johnson's 'Terraplane Blues'."

'Nobody's Fault But Mine'
"There are huge screen's dominating the O2 Arena, they split into four sometimes, goes monochrome, colour etc...quite spectacular."

'No Quarter'
"Following the song Plant paid tribute to John Paul Jones, who played keyboards and bass on the track."

'Since I've Been Loving You'
"A bit of a style guide for you, all the band are dressed in black bar Page who is rocking a white shirt. As for the song they gone for the epic version....very bluesy."

'Dazed And Confused'
"Settle yourselves in, we're expecting a ten minute version of this classic... it was. At the end of it of the song Plant told the audience 'On guitar Jimmy Page, just as he did on 'The Song Remains The Same' DVD which was filmed in Madison Square Garden in the 70s."

'Stairway To Heaven'
"What do you think happened? Right! From the moment those opening notes rang out the whole audience went absolutely crazy. The atmosphere is electric. Afterwards Plant said "Ahmet, we did it!"

'The Song Remains The Same'
"A fairly straight version of the classic."

'Misty Mountain Hop'
"Plant kicked this one off by praising the job drummer Jason Bonham has been doing, stepping into his late father's shoes tonight."

'Kashmir'

#1126 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Voted Classic Rock Magazine Album Of The Year 2007! » 917 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:

Well, the mag could be making a mockery of CD, as it certainly wouldn't be the first time its happened(or the last). The article isn't fake though.

I geunuinely don't think that iss the case. Firstly the writers are big rock fans, why wouldn't they want Axl to succeed and release a bunch of good tunes. Secondly its better for their magazine to review great music / bands. Its not good business to rely off crappy music and half baked reviews.

The bad part is I vowed never to cancel my subscription until Chinese Democradcy is finally released. What a silly idea. Nevermind, its a good magazine, much better than Kerrang or Metal Hammer.

#1127 Re: Guns N' Roses » The year I learned how to stop caring and love the wait » 917 weeks ago

sic. wrote:

It's never really that simple.

We're fast approaching the one-year anniversary of Axl's open letter, in which he announced the tentative release date of March 6th, 07 for CD. He mentioned minor, minor additions were left to be made, while Merck in a subsequent open response revealed a deal would still have to be with the label. Merck also said they'd "needed the money [from the European & US tours] to be able to complete the album and keep the band alive"; the project had been self-financed for several years now, and wasn't about to change at the last minute. "The record company refused to conclude the renegotiation until we were ready to hand over the finished album and refused to prepare a marketing campaign or commission video treatments until they had it in their hands."

One year later, there is no album out. It's said to be finished but Universal wasn't about to strike a deal last year before Axl had delivered. The reasoning that follows now is "no album this year, no new deal with the label, no album turned over to the label".

The album may be finished, you say. Damn straight, could be. Last we heard was in 02/22, when Del James descended from the mountain where the fire hasn't ceased to burn in well over a decade. Recording was completed, and the band had begun the mixing process. Baz had integrated himself into the recordings seamlessly and will have his presence felt. In other words, Axl heard him sing a chorus for Sorry after putting out his open letter and realized he could chalk it under those minor additions.

That's one of those things that stand up when looking at the CD saga. More than once, Axl's taken fancy of something and started to figure out how to implement it on his record(s), in atleast one of the songs. This I Love had a friggin harp added to it when the song was over twelve years old; not to mention the oft-rumored Prostitute which's been described as a hard-hitting rock track, despite having everything aside the kitchen sink crammed in due to the modest orchestration by Paul Buckmaster (ten 1st Violins, eight 2nd Violins, six violas, and eight cellos).

They also toured this past year. Mexico, Australia, New Zealand and Japan (with apologies to South Africa); all very easy markets, where the enthusiasm for GNR today equals if not surpasses that of Europe. Merck said the touring money was needed when the label refused to budge. No doubt the album wasn't turned over by the summer, as touring without the album in those markets is best explained by the overall lack of funds. In that case, I hope Axl arranged his extravagant afterparties out of his own pocket instead of blowing some hard-earned dime from the band's war chest.

Axl has quite obviously put his own money into the project eversince February 2004. By now, he probably realized it's not a very healthy investment and by touring, he could get back the money he'd invested on top of Universal's $13 million. Even with royalty checks coming in, it's hard to believe Axl could sustain both the financing and his standard of living for years on without getting a bit worried. There are a few choices to resolve the matter; complete CD as well as possible with the money you're currrently willing to invest (which could mean no Baz sessions, btw) and crawl back to Universal - or tour, forget label money, cover your past expenses and perhaps even generate some surplus. In this digital day and age, touring already appears to be the main source of revenue of many artists. What a pioneer spirit Axl would thus be - generate money by touring and pour it all down to an album which a great many people will download, thus stealing you from the money you invested in the first place.

The problem only comes to play if Universal still takes as hard a stance as Merck suggested. No deal with Axl before CD means Axl could continue to negotiate with them and simultaneously finalize his album as long as he'd like, but they wouldn't give a damn before he'd actually turn it over. Every time he goes on tour, he buys more time. Every time the fanbase cares less. One might compare the situation to the Halloween parties he tends to host in Malibu.

Axl throws a costume party every Halloween for friends and their families. Enormous pumpkins ring the swimming pool, and spider webs hang in the trees. Specially built mazes and forts rattle with squealing children. Almost as excited as a child, Axl himself has been known to dash around and toy with every attraction. One past guest gets the impression that Axl is trying to re-create his own childhood, albeit one better than his actually was. The Halloween scene in the past few years hasn't been what it once was. "His parties have been getting smaller and smaller," recalls one recent guest. "The ever-shrinking universe." - RS, 2000

Of course, there's an exit. Various ("final") mixes of several songs do exist; the catch-22 is that they are behind a lock and key due to Axl's (n)ongoing negotiations with the label. If you'd ask the band, the response would be that there are no "final mixes", because those'd be the ones that would eventually be featured on the album. But then there are these "work-in-progress final mixes", which are an excellent way to measure the public interest regarding the project, and the only way imaginable to shift the pressure back to the label's end. "Release it before it all leaks, along with your $13 million."

If, by now, Axl has a trilogy of discs being readied, he has a good amount of potential tracks that might trickle out in the times to come. Those three tracks on Angel Down were nothing if not a short run of leaking Sorry. As long as the stalemate persists, Axl needs to remind everybody of what they're waiting for in the first place. That's the only real way to keep the audience on his side, and he does need to gather some major outside interest if he'd want to impress Universal.

Next year, the stakes get even higher as Axl's not getting any younger. 46 in less than two months, man. Isn't it time to take the stage again and say just one word?

"Sorry."

Great post sic. A+.

#1128 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Voted Classic Rock Magazine Album Of The Year 2007! » 917 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Did classic rock, not also here "Atlas Shrugged", "Silkworms", "Ryiad", "Prostitute", along with the other demos.

Wasn't that article/editor guy Neemo was replying too, when they asked the article to be took down...?


Either way I think this is cool... And people should be happy smile.

Absolutely. I'm a big fan of Classic Rock, and I'm glad that they are keeping GN'R alive. The more the record company feel the demand, the more the general public shows interest, the greater the chance we're going to see the music finally see the light of day.

Common Ricky Hatton!!!! (Sorry I just had to get that in)

#1129 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Voted Classic Rock Magazine Album Of The Year 2007! » 917 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Did classic rock, not also here "Atlas Shrugged", "Silkworms", "Ryiad", "Prostitute", along with the other demos.

Wasn't that article/editor guy Neemo was replying too, when they asked the article to be took down...?


Either way I think this is cool... And people should be happy smile.

Yup.

They don't have to give two shits about GN'R. But they do, and I think thats good. Once the media stop caring at all, that really could be the nail in the coffin for GN'R.

#1130 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Voted Classic Rock Magazine Album Of The Year 2007! » 917 weeks ago

They also voted 'Better', 'Chinese Democracy' and 'The Blues' in their top 200 songs of the year.

I genuinely think they like the leaks and are trying to gently prod Axl into releasing the album. A bit like I think Bach is.

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