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#1271 Re: Guns N' Roses » Big Surprise - We're almost all on the same side! » 562 weeks ago
Cramer wrote:Intercourse wrote:I am delighted that the forums in general are lit up over this reunion and all the haters from both sides have quietly stopped the civil war.
Surely we can all find something to bicker about...
Oh don't worry Cramer, once the band emerge there will be a honeymoon period among the diehards, probably lasting until the end of "Jungle" and then the bitching will start again..
No. It'll last until the start of The Seeker then the bitching will start. & rightly so. I'm looking forward to it already.
#1272 Re: Guns N' Roses » Big Surprise - We're almost all on the same side! » 562 weeks ago
Agreed. There will be something.
I am thinking ALL EYES (I know mine will be) magnified on Axl & Slash's chemistry on stage, no different than VR fans in 2012 with that one-off with Scott.
If they go out there and phone it in, with all that money on the line... it might be the death of the band for good.
What you'll see is p much what you've always seen. It'll be the same routine/repertoire Axl's been delivering with diminishing returns since '87..
I think they're seasoned professionals by this stage & they'll prob deliver a fun, safe, slick arena show that you get from most bands (& what you got from the BBF-era GnR tours).
I hope to fuck I'm wrong tho & there is proper passion & temper & anger. The real thing. Not some U2/Stones like polished bullshit, but I think it prob will be. Too many canoli's at stake. & sure when it's cashed in they can go their separate ways again.
#1273 Re: Guns N' Roses » Just say no to corporate cash grabs » 562 weeks ago
Izzy's role has been overrated. He's one of the central song writers, not the central song writer. Most of GN'Rs big guns were either written without him or in a supportive role. Jungle, RQ, NR, Civil War, Coma and Estranged are all without Izzy. SCOM is mainly Slash and Axl. PC is Duff, Slash and Axl.
Patience, YCBM and Don't Cry are Izzy's main contributions to the discography. Songs like Dust N Bones, Pretty Tied Up and Double Talking Jive are the songs with Izzy all over them, and while great they aren't the songs that defined the band.
Axl's vocals and arrangements and Slash' guitar are the foundation. The common thread in all their greatest hits. Even those written by Izzy.
Speak for yourself. I know love Think About You more than I do SCoM. DTJ & PTU are close to my favourite tracks on UYI's. I'll always maintain PTU is the direction they should've explored. It's such an amazing piece.
Izzy, more than any of them, is tapped into the source. He's a classic, traditional songwriter. His songs could be folk songs, they could be pop songs, they could be psychedelic hard rock songs - Think About You could've been done by The Crystals or The Ronettes back in the day.
His solo stuff alone, if there never was a guns n roses, would still be an incredible body of work. Think how feted Americana guys like Howe gelb or Ryan Adams are these days, they've got nothing on Izzy. Westerberg's a comparable peer I guess.
I just connect more readily with his influences & songwriting than I do the more pompous self absorbed styling a of Axl & his influences. Slash I wish would play more acoustic stuff, get closer to his Rory Gallagher roots than playing the populist cartoony guy. Izzy's range & unabashed pilfering & homages from reggae to pop is like a gateway to the world I live in. He could've been a New York Doll. When I'm listening to the stuff Axl & Slash come from it's more like I'm visiting (except for Rory G & maybe ELO's Telephone Line - & Todd Rundgren is great too).
Having said all that, you're right about the songs that defined the band.
But every historic band have at least one or two mega hits or identifiable classics & that's it - the Bryan Adams model again is something I like to use.
However, Guns never had any filler. It's what makes them so special.
Even if you take away the famous songs & are just left with Izzy's GnR songs you're still going to get some of the greatest rock songs ever, so I don't see how he's overrated. He's underrated if anything. He's brilliant, knows his stuff, a proper learned craftsman. You should appreciate him more tbh mate, his songs are magic & have the alchemy of the greats.
If I met him I'd give him a hug.
Re atoms nest:
Izzy isn't blazing a trail? What do you want him to be Taylor swift? Phil Collins? Gareth Brooks. He writes great rock n roll records, what more do you want from him?? He does his job & does it real well. Everything else is just wasted/wasteful energy.
#1274 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 562 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:Logically - the moment Slash does an interview he will be asked about GNR and Axl - he is then in a losing position - best case is he says something harmless and the show goes on - worst case is he thinks he says something harmless but it upsets Axl and the reunion is dead.....
Also, Slash may even give an answer well along the company line, but click-bait websites providing "news" turn it on its head. Unfortunately, controversy sells.
One way to deal with it would be to do a joint video interview with Axl and Slash. Safe environment, friendly interviewer, premeditated answers. Saying simple things like, "Guns got so big, so fast, that we just grew apart in the early 90's". Slash telling how much he appreciates Axl's vision and persistence to make the best album he can, Axl acknowledging that Slash has worked hard to make a solo career for himself. Both driving home the point that they're eager to work together again.
Keep it simple, focus on the biz and art, leave personal stuff aside for the time being. Might work.
Never going to happen.
Axl maybe feels he doesn't owe or want to give the world an explanation. I'm sure we all have some notion of how things fell back into place & performances will be the evidence of the reasons why they're working together again. Time will tell in that regard & we p much know the story of how Slash & Duff are back in.
It's just the minutiae of the inner workings of it that is of course of interest to the fans (& there are plenty), but it's never the kinda stuff people usually go public with, in their private lives let alone rock stars (tho Axl was always refreshingly honest when he used to talk).
#1275 Re: Guns N' Roses » Looks like rehearsals have started! » 562 weeks ago
I would love to see something like that with GNR, just Axl, Slash and Fortus and whoever playing whatever but proshot in a small room. Could kick ass.
Telling you mate, the only time Axl n slash will be in the same room will be when they're performing. IF they're recording material (which they're not) they'll have a errand boy delivering tapes & notes or emailing shit. Maybe they could Skype..
They'll play in a small room in a club venue for Rosario Dawson & maybe someone will record it on their phone.
& there you have another post brimming with optimism. You're welcome.
#1276 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 562 weeks ago
He didn't tweet about ticket prices or scalpers tho, did he??
#1277 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 562 weeks ago
Fred Durst was the man responsible first of all.
#1278 Re: The Garden » GTA V Online - GnREvo » 563 weeks ago
I'm already on my 3rd cup of coffee this morning.
By time I noticed you were online I was exhausted & just needed to chill. I'd had an evening of anarchy & drinking over me by then. Prob should've called it then actually. Been playing too much.
But yea ill prob be on on Friday again! 
#1279 Re: The Garden » GTA V Online - GnREvo » 563 weeks ago
Sorry man lemme know if yous need a body for heisting/extra man or even hosting higher ranking missions for you to grind while I chill.. Didn't mean to gate crash a bunch of guys killing each other 
#1280 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 563 weeks ago
Oh yea vanishing of Ethan Carter that was the other crap one I couldn't remember.
Loved fez.
Yea couldn't get into strider or resogun either.
I only really started playing again after gtav/o & as a means to escape my bad habits.
& it worked for a while but now unfortunately my bad habits are beginning to follow me into my gaming.. Been ripping the piss a bit this past week got my head up my ass.
