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#1301 Re: The Garden » How Realistic Do You Think A 3rd World War Is? » 541 weeks ago

TheMole wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

Do you think that we have progressed enough as a society that this will not happen or that nuclear weapons are enough of a determent that nothing bigger than another Middle Eastern conflict will play out?

I've been stuck in my echo chamber of likeminded friends and colleagues for a such long time that I've been truly shocked at some of the sexism, racism and religion-based bigotry some people of my generation (I'm 36) can show. I genuinely thought we were past that, at least in what I consider an enlightened part of the world. I still maintain that this behavior and these beliefs are those of a minority of people, but they have become much more vocal in recent years. I guess to a certain extent that's to be expected considering their way of life is has been under attack more and more for a long time now, but the undercurrent of hatred that has come to the surface recently is downright scary.

I don't think we've progressed as a society either.

I don't want to go too in-depth about the UK as a whole, but in terms of Northern Ireland... their's definitely a generational divide. The way parents raise their kids and bring them up to hate thy neighbor, based upon religion/ethnicity over events that happened before many of us were born.

Their seems to be a perception and I believed it when I was younger, that younger generations tend to be more liberal, less nationalistic and more peace loving? I know many people will disagree with it, but that's what the perception seemed to be in culture. However it's the older generations making the decisions and raising the kids. People can't let go off the past.

Their seems to be this excuse banded about that it's not racist, if you hate immigrants in the UK thanks to this dreadful campaign here. Okay fair enough, but alot of people seem to be using "it's not racist to have issues with immigration" as a shield so they can have a free pass to shout and do whatever they want. Not everyone who's black or Asian is originally from a different country, nor their parents.

The Syrian crisis is serious and I understand why people would feel uncomfortable letting in refugees from middle eastern countries given current world events, but the truth is the UK didn't actually let in alot (yet). We've just talked about it so far. Terrorists attacks don't happen here everyday, it's just that when they do we really focus on them. It's funny considering the bombings and occasional political killings in Northern Ireland have nothing to do with Muslims.

Their's also the perception that eastern Europeans just flee to the UK to claim benefits and never work. This is mostly though fueled by right wing tabloids and poverty porn/reality shows where people gawk at the poor like it's every day life. While their might be a few too many for people's liking, it's not accurate to suggest they just claim benefits. Funny enough their seems to be alot of people from middle England who'd be happy if Scotland/Waves left too. Example: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1458 … ck__quot_/

The right wing media via sensationalist, propaganda driven headlines has helped the right gain the key to the castle.

I had a similar discussion with James in another thread at some point, but I am concerned we're going to see some sort right wing driven ethic cleansing event similar to the Holocaust only with Muslims this time.

Then again it was the "left" of this country that took us to Iraq.

#1302 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 541 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

Um.. Did you guys even watch the fuckin show?!

Only watch for tits and dragons, it makes more sense that way.

#1303 Re: The Garden » The Randomness Thread » 541 weeks ago

I seem to keep having deja vu, every now and again.

I need better sleep at night tongue.

#1304 The Garden » How Realistic Do You Think A 3rd World War Is? » 541 weeks ago

AtariLegend
Replies: 24

Let's say within the next 30 years. What are you thoughts on the possibilities of this happening in any scenario or form. I'm not talking specifically another European continental war or Europe vs. Russia, US vs. China, US vs. Russia.. I'm talking about any possibility of a war on a scale comparable to the 1940's.

I'm curious since this for obvious reasons has been discussed alot recently (although generally dismissed by the post war generations), what peoples views on this are?

Do you think that we have progressed enough as a society that this will not happen or that nuclear weapons are enough of a determent that nothing bigger than another Middle Eastern conflict will play out?

#1305 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 541 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

"Britain's had enough of experts", that's what one of the the leading Leave campaigners said in response to 9 out of 10 economics advisors/bodies coming out in favour of Remain.

Just came in here to post just that.

#1306 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nightrain Official Site » 541 weeks ago

The site is getting alot more aesthetically pleasing on the eyes.

#1307 Guns N' Roses » 29/6/16 ARROWHEAD STADIUM, KANSAS CITY, MO UNITED STATES » 541 weeks ago

AtariLegend
Replies: 14

Aerial_view_of_Arrowhead_Stadium_08-31-2013.jpg

This is one of the few shows where it doesn't look like great ticket sales.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/06005 … R_grid_629

SETLIST:

1. It's So Easy
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Welcome To The Jungle
5. Double Talkin' Jive
6. Estranged
7. Live And Let Die
8. Rocket Queen
9. You Could Be Mine
10. Raw Power
11. This I Love
12. Civil War
13. Godfather Theme
14. Sweet Child O' Mine
15. Coma
16. Better
17. Out Ta Get Me
18. Wish You Were Here (Richard Fortus and Slash)
19. November Rain (with "Layla" Intro)
20. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
21. Nightrain
Encore:
22. Don't Cry
23. The Seeker
24. Paradise City

#1308 Re: The Garden » EURO 2016 Thread » 541 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

He right.

I remember that excuse during the 2008 qualifiers and the 2010 world cup.

#1309 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

I cannot believe that.

If middle England seriously vote for the posh English school teacher who looks down the peasants, speaks condescendingly to people, is full of lies and has a aura of evil about her... something is very, very wrong.

I seen her in the debates, what a terrible person. She's the kind of person who you'd assume only exists in American films with an evil rich English aristocrat. Their'll be riots on the streets with someone like her as PM.

#1310 Re: The Garden » EURO 2016 Thread » 541 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

The winner of Germany/Italy is going hammer the winner of France/Iceland.

14

tongue

Shame I'm not a betting fan.

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