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#1321 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

Iain Duncan Smith backtracks on leave side's £350m NHS claim
Tory Brexit campaigner says he never made EU referendum pledge that appeared on official battlebus

Leading Brexit campaigner Iain Duncan Smith has distanced himself from a pledge by the official leave campaign to spend £350m “sent to the EU every week” on the NHS, saying he had never made the claim.

During the referendum campaign, Vote Leave issued posters reading: “Let’s give our NHS the £350m the EU takes every week.” The campaign’s battlebus, outside which the former work and pensions secretary was frequently photographed, featured the slogan: “We send the EU £350 million a week – let’s fund our NHS instead.”

But asked about the statement on Sunday morning, Duncan Smith said he had never made the claim during the campaign.

Speaking to the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show, he said: “I never said that during the course of the election. The £350m was an extrapolation of the £19.1bn – that’s the total amount of money we gave across to the European Union. What we actually said was a significant amount of it would go to the NHS. It’s essentially down to the government, but I believe that is what was pledged and that’s what should happen. There was talk about it going to the NHS, but there are other bits and pieces like agriculture, which is part of the process. That is the divide up. It was never the total.”

He denied that his comments constituted a broken promise, saying: “The lion’s share of that money, the government is now able to spend. So people can say that there is more money available now for the NHS – categorically more, which is what’s required and that’s the key point.”

The repeated claim by the leave campaign that the UK could save £350m a week by leaving the EU was criticised in the run-up to the referendum, with the independent Institute for Fiscal Studies describing the figure as “clearly absurd” and estimating that Britain’s net contributions were closer to £175m a week.

Sir Andrew Dilnot, the chair of the UK Statistics Authority, twice reprimanded the campaign for using the figure, while Conservative MP Dr Sarah Wollaston said the claim that all of the money saved would go towards the health service meant she no longer felt comfortable being part of the Vote Leave campaign.

Speaking hours after the result of Thursday’s referendum was announced, the Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, said he could not promise money spent on the EU would instead go to the NHS. “I would never have made that claim, and it was one of the mistakes that the leave campaign made,” he said. “You must understand, I was ostracised by the official leave campaign and I did – as I always do – my own thing.”

A week before the referendum, pollsters working for Britain Stronger in Europe admitted that they were getting extremely worried about Vote Leave’s suggestion that £350m sent to the EU could be diverted to British priorities such as the NHS. Guardian focus groups in Brighton and Knowsley suggested many voters saw the message and believed it.

One woman in Merseyside told the group: “Just think, we could get £20bn back a year and make the country great again.”

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 … -smith-nhs

#1322 Re: The Garden » EURO 2016 Thread » 541 weeks ago

France don't have their best Striker or Defender at this tournament. Just saying.

#1323 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Just come out and say you'd rather be led by some bureaucrat in Brussels who was never voted in than actually have a voice in your country.

I'd rather be led by some bureaucrat in Brussels.
I have more in common with the technocrats that run the EU than I do the Tories.

That's part of the problem and exactly my thinking.

I really don't think the people that are unhappy realized that the only people that'll benefit long term are the ones that created this situation.

BBC really seem to think this will force another election, but if people vote for the same parties this will go on. Non Conservative Commentors think whoever pushes the leave button is fucked, that's why Cameron wants Boris to do it.

#1324 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

Their's a silver lining in that both the major parties here in the UK are in civil war with themselves, filled with resignations and arguments amongst themselves (nevermind each other).

On the otherhand, I don't see how that benefits us! The country is moving to the right politically.

#1325 Re: Guns N' Roses » 26/6/16 FEDEX FIELD, WASHINGTON, DC UNITED STATES » 541 weeks ago

CC's back.

I guess we can re-do the Fantasy Wrestling game again!

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I was joking.

Just incase tongue.

#1326 Re: Management » Trouble Getting to the Forum » 541 weeks ago

If you get duplicate PMs from me. You know why tongue.

#1327 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

Seriously though, even though I despise the outcome... I did burst into laughter when I seen this reported on ITV news;




He's the first and only MP to do so far.

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Hope just dropped. Not that the petition would have done anything, but it has numbers like {"name":"Vatican City","code":"VA","signature_count":11878}. People exploiting the system aren't going to help anyone.

#1328 Re: The Garden » EURO 2016 Thread » 541 weeks ago

Ronaldo won't be happy he didn't score the winning goal.

Ronaldo vs. Bale Semi Final tongue. I'm calling it.

#1329 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

This is going to sound bad.

...but seeing those right wing racist condescending Tories/UKIP/Britain First personalities on my TV with their smug faces almost makes me hope their's a recession just to wipe the smile off their faces.

Cunts.

#1330 Re: The Garden » EURO 2016 Thread » 541 weeks ago

No shots on target yet?

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