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#1321 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

I'd have killed to hear some of those chinese tracks with Slash parts. I'd also love to hear the stuff they would have written in 96 or whatever.

Bob Ezrin of Pink Floyd/Dark Side of the Moon fame gave Axl an evaluation of CD around that time. He liked three songs.

Wonder if those three were the ones with 21 pencilled in on them?

#1322 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

I think the Zakk thing happened in early '95.

Can you really blame him, it does get convoluted 16

#1323 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

Marc Canter wrote:

Duff was never going to have a problem with heroin simply because his girlfriend died of a heroin overdose in his arms when he was 15.

Ouch.

#1324 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash in CD sessions 2001? Illusions reunion in 96? » 733 weeks ago

Marc Canter wrote:

In fact, a lot of people aren’t aware of this but for about two weeks in 1996 the guys got back together in the Illusions lineup ... two weeks later that reunion fell apart but from what I understand Izzy had a tape of like 50 songs that he was gonna bring

Intriguing.

Duff and Izzy were writing songs together in around 1995. Down by the Sea comes from that, I understood.

Marc Canter wrote:

Slash had a good dozen or so as well and Axl was into at least three of them and maybe four but then Slash got big headed and just took them all and said “Fine, I’m gonna go do Snake Pit with them”.

Marc's talking about the '96 sessions, but the Snakepit conundrum went down in '94. Hold that thought.

Marc Canter wrote:

I know that Axl was really upset that Slash quit and that Slash took those particular songs because those were songs that were written explicitly for Guns N’ Roses.  Just because Axl didn’t want all of them didn’t mean he didn’t wanna work with some of them.

Marc Canter wrote:

(With Izzy and Steven gone) Guys would come in with totally complete songs and just expect the other guys to just agree to play what they had in mind on their tunes.  Or they would hand completed songs to Axl and say “Here you go, write some lyrics”.

"I didn’t walk till several months after having 3-4-hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash, trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off." (Axl, MyGNR, 12/14/08)

It would've been interesting if Slash would've forcefed Axl the lyrics on the Snakepit demos.

"With Mike Clink producing, and Matt and Mike Inez playing, I properly recorded the demos we'd done. We found ourselves a singer - Eric Dover of Jellyfish - who fit bill well enough at the time. He and I wrote the lyrics to all twelve tracks and I think it's pretty easy to tell which songs he wrote and which ones I wrote: all of my songs are directed at one person... though no-one picked up on it at the time. I used the record as an opportunity to vent a lot of shit that I needed to get off my chest." (Slash, Autobiography)

Marc Canter wrote:

It was sort of that kind of a thing but Axl pretty much never forgave him for leaving and he’s still very angry about that.  He’s also angry about some things Slash said in the wake of leaving and about some things said regarding signing the name of the band over.

So, let me get this straight.


At the heart of this old grudge is nothing other than

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Makes sense, really.



The snake and bone make out an $, you know. Sly.

#1325 Re: The Sunset Strip » Anthony Hopkins as Alfred Hitchcock » 734 weeks ago

smoke wrote:

That's a heck of a chin he put on for the role, or is it fake?

Unlike Christian Bale,

Sir Tony is a classically trained actor who doesn't physically alter himself, he lets the makeup team do it for him.

That said, he was absolutely brilliant as the former US president in Oliver Stone's NIXON, so I have faith in him pulling Hitch off as well.

#1326 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

He won't do it right, and he won't put 100% effort into it.  He's shown glimpses of wanting to do it right, but something always happens that turns him into half-assed man again.

I have to admit, I get that.

If he'd be the man he proclaims to be, he'd be having a ball with the new band promoting ALL-NEW material, with setlists as random as the UYI tour.

#1327 Re: Guns N' Roses » So Back to normal or whatever? » 734 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Wasn't one of the early new band releases called a demo by him (forget which one it was)?

I think you mean OMG, and yeah, Axl later denounced the End of Days version, which I did take as a heel. 

buzzsaw wrote:

I really hope CD wasn't the final product he envisioned either.  I think he used to have artistic integrity.  I think maybe he still does, but his work doesn't reflect it.

russtcb wrote:

IAs much as I like CD, I don't think it does reflect what he meant when he started.

It's the right record and I couldn't ask for more in that regard. Could have been a more enjoyable journey, but it's there now. The art comes first. It dictates if not the course [then] the destination artistically. - Ax, 2009

#1328 Re: Guns N' Roses » So Back to normal or whatever? » 734 weeks ago

smoke wrote:

Fact is, Axl's tiny amount of output interests and touches me more than than all the others' combined, with a few rare single song exceptions here and there.

Whatever anyone says about Axl, his artistic output has integrity. By this I mean, he does the songs exactly the way he wants, love it or leave it. He's always done that, the November Rain outro as a good example.

I remember Slash saying it may be overblown, but he respected the hell out of the fact that Axl sampled every horn and whatever individually.

#1329 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New velvet revolver DVD release » 734 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

My only fear is that it seems to be by the same group that made the last DVD...but maybe that's only distribution?

I would assume so.

This DVD comes via a German music show called Rockpalast, who oft shoot known bands on their native soil and then produce ProShot recordings for an easy payday later on.

Also explains their awkward release schedules, as in VR having been down for aeons (and even reformed for a show) before they got around to releasing their disc.

#1330 Re: Guns N' Roses » Sorum Issues RRHoF Statement » 734 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

I mean going off with slash might have angered Axl more and maybe matt was trying to bridge the rift.

Defending Slash in front of Axl is a sure-fire way to have your share of Axl's anger, as well.


I just remembered what Axl said about that in '99.

Matt was fired, but Matt came in attempting to get fired and told many people so that night. - Axl

This is a way the human mind can actually work; when stuck in an unhealthy situation, we may drive headlong to a point of conflict just to get some sort of closure. Matt may have thought arguing with Axl would either result in a better working environment, or he would be dismissed from the job he'd never in his right mind give up voluntarily.

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