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#1371 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

I know this is probably just being paranoid, but voting by marking a box with a pencil doesn't seem very logical.

I mean someone could just, use a rubber... then mark the other box.

I'm not saying it's rigged, I'm just saying tongue.

#1372 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

BBC coverage started. Watching, expecting a long night.

Everyone expecting remain to win, even those that voted leave according to the coverage. Votes haven't been counted yet.

#1373 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

If we leave. Cameron is fucked, he'll ever resign tomorrow morning or be forced too soon by party donors.

Leave is essentially Boris (who will probably end up as a PM if we leave), Gove and Farage (UKIP). UKIP aren't officially apart of it, but it's expected Farage would get a role in a Boris Government. Apart from that, it's some Torries (mostly) and a few others here or there.

More importantly it's Murdoch who owns half the media (The Sun, The Times, Sky News ect. ) in our country pushing it.

Even if we vote to stay, Cameron's going to be in trouble long term. Boris will be seen as a hero, despite public rejection and people might be out shouting in the streets about it being rigged.

*This is only my interpretation of what I've seen/read*

#1374 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

johnny, tell babydolls about the beautiful Northern Ireland weather we always have.

I got surnburned today. Or sunburnt. Burned I think. Maybe either/or.

A Magnifying glass probably isn't the most effective away to get a tan though.

#1375 Re: The Garden » Hundreds of Genes Spring Back to Life in the Days After Death » 541 weeks ago

julita wrote:

These zombie genes can’t bring a person back to life, but this discovery has serious implications for forensics and organ donor recipients.

We know what the end game is though.

day-of-the-dead-bub-gun1.jpg

btw... Awesome film.

#1376 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

julita wrote:

Understanding the anti-immigrant mindset

Updated June 23, 2016 2:12 PM

As Britain decides whether to leave the European Union, it is clear that one issue created the greatest source of tension: immigration.

British attitudes toward immigration have been changing for some time, and especially since the European Union expanded to include many of the former communist countries of Eastern Europe. According to the British Social Attitudes Survey, in 1995, 63 percent of the British public were in favor of reducing immigration. By 2008, this had risen to 78 percent, where it has stabilized.

For a country built on a long history of inward migration — from the Flemish textile workers of the 14th century through the Commonwealth workers of the 20th — this change has been surprising and has been attributed to economic unease. But this may not be the case.

In a recent paper, researchers from the London School of Economics addressed the issue that often appears at the heart of public concerns: jobs and wages. Over a period in which the number of people from the EU living in Britain tripled - to 0.9 million in 1995 to 3.3 million in 2015 — there was no adverse impact on British workers in terms of a substitution of foreign-born labor for native British labor. While there had certainly been labor market pain, it wasn’t a result of immigration but of the slow recovery from the global financial crisis.

EU immigrants are, on average, better educated than the native-born population. They are more likely to have a job and to pay more in tax than they receive in benefits and public services. A study of 22 Organization for Economic and Cooperation and Development countries published last year found that immigration boosts productivity growth. Applying the findings to Britain suggests that halving Britain’s immigration would knock 0.32 percent off productivity growth each year. The LSE authors wrote:

“We can confidently say that the empirical evidence shows that EU immigration has not had significantly negative effects on average employment, wages or inequality for British people.”

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Looking beyond Britain and the narrower question of EU migration, economic evidence published by the American Economics Association suggests that lowering barriers to freedom of movement could add more to the global economy than any other form of market liberalization, including the free movement of goods and capital.

In research published this week, pollsters Ipsos MORI found that 46 percent of Britons think that the economy has benefited from EU immigration compared with only 30 percent who think the opposite. Less than one in four believe that EU immigration has had a negative effect on local areas. The positive economic arguments, it seems, haven’t fallen on deaf ears.

But asked whether immigration from the EU has been “good for Britain on the whole,” the survey reveals a much deeper division: four in 10 believe that immigration has been positive, with an equal number believing that it has been bad (20 percent either don’t know or think it’s neutral). According to the British Social Attitudes Survey, “more than half of people (54 percent) who see immigration as good for the economy also want to see immigration reduced.”

Whatever happens with Thursday’s vote, a debate over immigration is likely to be at the heart of U.K. politics for some time to come. Opinions are complicated, and not necessarily dictated by logic. But even Britons fearful for their futures don’t necessarily think immigration has come with an economic cost. In a year of turmoil and unease, this is at least something to build on.

http://www.newsday.com/opinion/oped/und … 1.11957686

Worth mentioning on the last BBC debate, one of the panelists brought up the fact that LEAVE despite wanting to change the rules have never promised to actually decrease immigration, despite campaigning about it....

Team Boris dodged the question. Then tried to say it was more about controlling who immigrates here, rather than the numbers. Anyway, luckily voters have a short memory... especially in debates.

#1377 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

johnny, tell babydolls about the beautiful Northern Ireland weather we always have.

#1378 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 541 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

Er... Maybe u wanna put a spoiler alert on that post, at least until Monday?? Ffs wish I hadn't opened this thread now!

I don't like spoilers either sad.

I was really looking forward to finding out what happened in episode 9 this season, until other people in this thread spoiled it.

#1379 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

London it's worth saying was expected to be one of the places to vote overwhelming to remain.

We'll see tonight. I hope we never see another fiasco like this again.

#1380 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago

Wow, the news channels for the past hour almost have been run-ing stories about a shooting in Germany were allegedly anywhere between 25-50 people where injured and 7 dead, along with CNN suggesting it was terrorism. Then this;


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