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#1431 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnREvolution Chinese Democracy Elimination 2015 - Round 7 » 580 weeks ago
Starting to get really hard now...only a couple more easy choices for me
It's gotta be prostitute this round
#1433 Re: Guns N' Roses » As the reunion rumors are on a treadmill... » 580 weeks ago
I voted "on the fence" more because I've never been much impressed by Robin
I'd love a reunion...and by reunion I mean Axl slash and duff...whoever else is along for the ride doesn't concern me as long as they play the parts well
#1434 Guns N' Roses » Dissecting Chinese Democracy: Track 7 - Catcher N' The Rye » 580 weeks ago
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Catcher N' The Rye is credited to Axl Rose and Paul Tobias, it was first performed on December 16, 2009 at the Kyocera Dome in Osaka, Japan
Brian May of Queen was originally called in by GnR to lay down guitar parts for the track, after he left Sean Beavan and Axl stitched together a completely different solo from Brian's different takes, when called back to the studio to listen to the final track, Brian was reportedly a bit flabbergasted "but that's not what I played" tho after a time he must have warmed to it, as he was quoted as saying "it's a shame I was proud of the song", when interviewed about his parts being removed from the final studio track. The removal of his solo caused a bit of a rift within the online education fanbase, thereally is a leak of Brian's version available if u know where to look for that sort of thing...from what I can remember it was a poor recording and I didn't listen to it too much...perhaps I should listen again
On the surface it would appear that the song title refers to J.D. Salinger's novel Catcher in the Rye. Some may suggesg that Rose is questioning in this song why some notorious killers, such as Mark Chapman, the murderer of John Lennon, appear to be motivated by the book and it's anti-hero Holden Caulfield.
From the MyGnR chat, Axl claimed that the song was inspired by what's referred to sometimes as Holden Caulfield syndrome and that the lyrics lines are just venting, blowing off steam, humor or some type of entertainment where it may be how others seriously live in their minds. Appatently When when the title of the song became public he got a call from the director of Imagine wanting a bunch of money to make a documentary and had a guy sending him strange packages about Lennon and serial killers
I read Salinger's book a couple years ago and I absolutely loved it, I can't believe I didn't read it sooner...I highly recommend the book...for those interested in the books symbolism you can visit this page:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/catcher/themes.html
Personally I think the lyrics are amazing...perhaps the best on the album...I also feel they touch on much of what is presented in the above link
Themes
Alienation as a former of self protection
- the main character in the book often alienates himself to avoid dealing with others...sound familiar?
You decide
Cause I don't have to
And then they'll find
And I won't ask you
At anytime
Or long hereafter
If the cold outside's
As I'm imaging
It to be
Phoniness in the adult world
- Axl's struggles with false information in the media is legendary
When all is said and done
We're not the only ones
Who look at life this way
That's what the old folk's say
But every time I see them
Makes me wish I had a gun
If I thought that I was crazy
Well I guess I'd have more fun
(Guess I'd have more fun)
Painfulness growing up
- while not necessarily connected with growing up, the idea of change, whether the death of Lennon or the death of the original band or axis own personal struggles, there was a massive change experienced for him and just getting thru it was probably very trying for him.
.I've traversed a sea of horrorsome to be with u tonight
Cause what used to be's
Not there for me
And ought to for someone
that belongs ...
Insane ...
Like I do
Between the last 2 passages from the song that I quoted...I wonder if this is an admittance that some of the crazy Axl we've seen over the years is being presented as misconstrued and/or fabricated by himself or the media..people think he is crazy so he might as well act the part
Motifs
Loneliness
Relationships, intimacy, sexually
Lying and deception
Symbols
The catcher in the rye
The red hat
Museum of natural history
Ducks in the lagoon
I think the song content is very deep...I could go on and on...great song
#1436 Re: The Garden » 2015 NFL & Fantasy Football » 581 weeks ago
Yea he was auto drafted for me in this league 
#1437 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnREvolution Chinese Democracy Elimination 2015 - Round 5 » 581 weeks ago
Citr is one of the album highlights imo
#1438 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 581 weeks ago
Prolly more of a nyc music scene thing than a direct gnr correlation imo...when the redheaded recluse starts showing up at HBO premiers and high profile album release parties again then we know it's on...until then it's just a waiting game
#1439 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tommy is out(?) » 581 weeks ago
We've all been thru this type of uncertainty before...and we all know it ain't over until the proverbial elvis leaves the building
When we see a DJ or Ron type of official statement I'll believe that someone has left the band....I seriously doubt that the "news" will be broken on a random radio show or podcast
#1440 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dissecting Chinese Democracy: Track 2 - Shackler's Revenge » 581 weeks ago
I didn't mind it so much when cd came out...maybe it was just new music honeymoon...but now it's just cringe worthy. A for sure skip on the old cd player
