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#1501 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

You're trying to bait me and it isn't going to happen.  I tried deflecting you with humor, then subtile statements so we didn't have to have a confrontation on the issue.  It isn't going to happen.

Whatever rocks your boat, dude.

The ass bit falls under humor or a subtle statement, then.

#1502 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ Ashba Slashes His Way Into Guns N' Roses Guitarist Spot » 758 weeks ago

Trent was working on Ghosts at the time. Those albums were released in March 2008, and the story goes The Slip was written and recorded in the seven week period following that.

#1503 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
apex-twin wrote:

Right, you read people for a living and you just labeled me an ass on those grounds?

You're not trying to have a discussion. 

I'm more than willing to have a discussion with you; you're interested in trying to turn my thoughts on someones reaction to a concert to every single thing in life.

You said I was out of the discussion at one point, despite giving no indication in our prior correspondence that I had offended you in any fashion. After that, you began to taunt me. Not the most constructive way to show me the err of my ways.

buzzsaw wrote:

I guess that's just it.  It's not what I've been bitching about.  I don't care about any of the rest of this.  I know you guys think I bitch about everything, but at the end of the day, all of my complaints boil down to two things: he's not releasing music I consider to be good, and he's not getting back together with the guys that inspired him to release good music.

That's it.  I don't care if he does interviews.  I don't really care if he tours.  All these things that all of you seem to care about don't really mean anything to me.

apex-twin wrote:

So you pass time discussing things you don't care about, like how much a tour would sell or how good the show was?

buzzsaw wrote:

It all relates back to what I do care about.

apex-twin wrote:

Does that count as an emotional reaction?

buzzsaw wrote:

If a bear shits in the wood and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a noise?

(To note: I took your above post as a facetious remark in the given context. Made me smile, even.)

apex-twin wrote:

Would you therefore say your opinions on things you don't care about, like how well a tour would sell and how good the show was, are colored by an emotional reaction, which boils down to Axl not releasing music you consider to be good, and him not getting back together with the guys that you feel inspired him to release good music?

You never answered my last question. I respect the opinion you laid out in your initial post - you feel the new music isn't good enough and a reunion would be needed to restore Axl's creative force. That's completely fine with me.

How do those issues relate to a concert or a tour - which you say you don't care about in the first place? Axl can tour with whomever he wants, and the reception of those shows, as well as the overall sales of those shows, do little to affect your opinion on his new music, or what you perceive as the ultimate recording lineup, correct?

For someone who claims he doesn't care whether Axl tours or not and how well it goes, you debate a whole lot on the subject. If I ask you again, in plain words, would you consider yourself prejudiced towards the live band / performance due to your opinions regarding the absence of the original members / overall quality of CD songs?

#1504 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ Ashba Slashes His Way Into Guns N' Roses Guitarist Spot » 758 weeks ago

True, and this is slightly OT, but I find the actual timing of Robin's resignation relevant based on the fact that he was accused of jumping ship to NIN again. Had he left months before the NIN thing actually happened, one'd think it carried less weight in his decision.

#1505 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ Ashba Slashes His Way Into Guns N' Roses Guitarist Spot » 758 weeks ago

DJ Ashba wrote:

I got a phone call saying, "We've been looking for a guitarist for about a year and a half and we're trying to find the right guy. Would you be interested?

DJ was announced in March, 2009.

Pretty much suggests Robin was out for good in late 2007.

#1506 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

Right, you read people for a living and you just labeled me an ass on those grounds?

#1507 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
apex-twin wrote:

Would you therefore say your opinions on things you don't care about, like how well a tour would sell and how good the show was, are colored by an emotional reaction, which boils down to Axl not releasing music you consider to be good, and him not getting back together with the guys that you feel inspired him to release good music?

Again, you're out of the discussion.  That's two strikes.  hmm

If you want to have a discussion, let's have a discussion.  If you want to be an ass, I'm not interested.

Without answering my question and implying I have come across resembling an ass?

#1508 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

Would you therefore say your opinions on things you don't care about, like how well a tour would sell and how good the show was, are colored by an emotional reaction, which boils down to Axl not releasing music you consider to be good, and him not getting back together with the guys that you feel inspired him to release good music?

#1509 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

Does that count as an emotional reaction?

#1510 Re: Guns N' Roses » Updates: Orlando, FL (Amway Center 10-28-11) » 758 weeks ago

So you pass time discussing things you don't care about, like how much a tour would sell or how good the show was?

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