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#1571 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Movie Madness - Discussion and Results Thread » 875 weeks ago

I find it interesting that the Dark Knight made as much considering that it was 2 and a half hours long, even if you factor in inflation that is a very impressive.  I think it had good word of mouth and Batman Begins was a good film which led to anticipation for the sequel.  However, I do think that it does have a story that appeals to the masses that everyone can relate to and understand that isn't very complicated.  It appealed to every segment of the population.  I've only seen it once in the theater and enjoyed it, eventually I'll pick it up on BR.

Spider-Man 3 was the weakest of the three, and it did the best. Go figure.

It was definitely helped by the foreign gross.  It made the least of the three films domestically.  Unfortunately, there is going to be a fourth installment.

Would it be possible to do a Worst Movie of all time next with the voting being not for the film we like the most but the one we dislike the most. Could have some great matchups in there.

I'm down for this.

#1572 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Use Your Illusion II » 875 weeks ago

I'll rate it like this

UYI

Right Next Door to Hell--great
Dust N Bones-ok (Love the Live Era version)
Live and Let Die--ok
Don't Cry--ok (hasn't aged well)
Perfect Crime--great
Bad Obsession--ok
Double Talkin Jive--great
Back off Bitch--mediocre
November Rain--great
The Garden--great
Garden of Eden--good
Don't Damn Me--great
Bad Apples--ugh worst song of the album
Dead Horse--great
Coma--great

UYI II

Civil War--great
14 years--ok
Yesterdays--good
KOHD--I hate this version
Get in the Ring--music is great lyrics not so much, borderline good
Shotgun Blues--ok
Breakdown--great
Locomotive--great
Estranged--great
So Fine--great
You Could be Mine--great
Don't Cry (alt)--ok
My World--ugh awful

Bottom Line:  I think both albums suffered from having too much filler.  I personally prefer some of the songs on UYI 1 but I think there is less stuff to wade through in UYI 2.  I would have just dumped the cover songs and the alt version of Don't Cry.

#1574 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 875 weeks ago

The thing is DCK is I grew up with Gn'R. It does piss me of that the "Stones" of my generation was flushed down the fucking toilet cause of one douchebags "ultimate vision" . Axl's a  douche and I think those with common sense recognize that. I don't sit at home in a  heap of anger. I don't fucking care anymore.  When I log on(which is less and less) the biggest joke is when people say shit like "we don't know Axl and we don't know what's going on behind the scenes"  That's fucking bullshit. People need to pull their heads out of their ass. Every other band on earth gets shit done, no other band has an ancient scroll of excuses. People who think it's more complicated than it is are dellusional.  The truth here is those who continually defend Axl and try to reason or justify why things are as fucked as they are,  are the ones who take it more personal than those of us who can call a spade a spade.

I'm around the same age as you are and feel generally the same way.  The maddening thing about this he screws up on basic easy shit that every musician should be able to do.  Showing up on time to his own concerts, boarding a flight on time (I think that was the excuse for the 2002 Vancouver riot), hiring someone to design a competent website, those are all things someone with his money should be able to do.  The problem with him holding the name is that no one will challenge him and he does (or doesn't for the most part) things whenever he feels like it.  Now that CD has been released, most of us can see that Axl for whatever reason just didn't want to release the album.  There were no big obstacles delaying the album--not the label or finances or anything else.

Just look at the output the former Gunners have put out since they left.  Izzy releases an album every two years.  Duff has released several albums with Loaded and VR.  Slash has done 4 albums and will release a solo album, which he recorded in less than a year.  Shit NIN (with Finck) released an album only months after Robin rejoined.

The simple fact is that Axl is lazy.  I know I'll get bashed for this but that's the truth.  He has released one album of original material in 18 years.  I'm not asking for albums every year but an album every four or five years is a reasonable expectation.  AC/DC with band members in their fifties and sixties have released 3 albums since 1995.  I think I finally understand what Slash was talking about when he was talking about Axl's questionable work ethic.

Yes, I know Axl probably has mental health issues but he is in the income bracket where he can afford the medical care where these thing shouldn't interfere with his musical output.

#1575 Re: The Garden » HIV Hitting the Porn Industry » 875 weeks ago

The unnamed actress first tested positive for HIV on June 4 and worked the following day before taking second and third tests, according to the Times.

This part doesn't really surprise me as they get paid per scene, right?  So if she's not working--especially in this economy--she's not getting paid.

Since 2004, 1,357 porn performers have tested positive for gonorrhea and 15 for syphilis, according to county health data cited by the Times.

I have a medical question to ask here:  Why is there such a large discrepancy between positive tests for gonorrhea and syphillis?  Do they take antibiotics--or any medication--to prevent this disease from being spread beforehand or something?

#1576 Re: The Garden » Obama to decide how much you smoke » 875 weeks ago

The Reagan republicans(and democrats) are not dead. They're just waiting for someone with a brain and actual interest in the country hits the national stage.

The problem here for the Republicans is that they're lacking an articulate and engaging guy/person to deliver the message.  The Presidential Election is in essence a popularity contest and I'm not sure that there is a current candidate who can match Obama.

Another problem they have is that they have essentially been relegated to the party of the South.  The Democrats pretty much took the youth vote and Latino vote by significant margins.  I think that they have to determine what their message is--outside of Anti-Obama--and present it to the nation.  The Latino issue is complex since there are some key Republicans who favor a hard line stand against illegal immigration and that hurts their attempts to woo the Latino community.

They need to refocus their election strategy because even when they were winning it was basically a bunch of southern states and a few battleground states.  They need to copy the Democrats and go towards a 50 state strategy instead of targeting a few key states.  The western US is solidly democratic and the Republicans need to make some inroads here if they want to be competitive.

Gingrich is already positioning himself to blame everything on Obama only 5 months into the man's presidency. Gingrich is a very intelligent man, and was a big mover and shaker in getting the Republicans back control of the House in the 90's. But Gingrich doesn't have 'President' quality. Just like Joe Biden didn't have it. Gingrich could very well be someone's VP, but there gonna need more of a 'face' for the actual person. I haven't seen that, and Sarah Palin ain't it. She's an idiot.

I agree with most of this since I too find Gingrich too be an engaging speaker regardless of whether or not I agree with him.  His problem is he has a whole bunch of stuff in his closet that would be ripe for Democratic attack ads.  His problem is that he's basically an a sleazeball when it comes to women.  He tried to make his first wife sign divorce papers when she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery.  I'm pretty sure he was cheating on his second wife with a younger congressional aide.

#1577 Re: The Garden » Grandma Tazed » 875 weeks ago

The cop made the right call.

#1578 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Movie Madness - Round 1, Battle 14 » 875 weeks ago

Fight Club

It's hard to go wrong with any Fincher/Pitt collaboration.

#1579 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 876 weeks ago

Wasn't there a club in Texas or somewhere a couple years back that advertised GNR showing up, and obviously it wasn't true?

Is this what you guys are talking about?




FOXNEWS.COM HOME > ENTERTAINMENT
Ga. Fans Disappointed by Axl's No-Show

Tuesday, April 26, 2005

   
Axl Rose hasn't cut a new album in 10 years, but his name still draws crowds — even without the man himself.

That was the case Friday night at Coyotes, a small club in Cartersville, Ga., about 40 miles outside of Atlanta.

Contrary to all evidence, Coyotes insisted that the Guns N' Rosesfrontman would emerge from his self-imposed seclusion to play a gig with former bandmate Izzy Stradlin on its humble stage.

The strange story began a few weeks ago, when Atlanta radio station 96Rock started advertising the show. The Associated Press called GNR's manager, who said Rose would not be performing. The station pulled the ads, but the club promised the show would go on, producing a contract apparently signed by someone other than Rose.

In the days before the show, club manager Pete Grim was a bit nervous as word spread about past riots by disgruntled GNR fans. So Grim removed all the club's chairs and tables, replaced glass bottles with plastic cups, hired about 30 bouncers and dropped the cover charge from $20 to $15.

He also handed out photocopies of a three-page contract with booking agency Bryant Entertainment and copies of what he said was a $1,500 certified check sent to the agency as a down payment.

Along came Friday night. About 400 people showed up at Coyotes, some from as far as Florida and Tennessee. The bar's beer prices magically doubled.

Coyotes stuck to its story until the eleventh hour — which in this case was shortly after 11 p.m., when Grim took the stage to give customers the not-so-unexpected news.

"I pretty much knew they weren't going to show up," said Michael Mustin, 25 — who nonetheless came more than 100 miles from Hayesville, N.C.

Grim said the booking agent, John Bryant, had promised as recently as Thursday night that Rose would be there, "and he was going to expect his money whether I advertised it or not."

All three telephone numbers listed on the contract for Bryant Entertainment were out of service. A fourth number, which Grim said he used to reach Bryant on Thursday night, had a recording saying the subscriber was no longer receiving calls. The contract listed the company's offices at addresses in Winter Park, Fla., and Chicago Ridge, Ill. But cross-checking these addresses found the Florida address to be home to a chemical company and the one in Chicago a private residence.

Craig Serritella, 28, from nearby Canton. Ga., said he was skeptical from the get-go, but the chance to see his favorite band was too tempting to resist. "I mean why would they come to Cartersville, Ga., of all places," he said.

The fans, disappointed but not surprised, left in peace.

"No confrontations. No altercations. No arrests," said Cartersville Police Lieutenant T. Ellis.

And no Axl.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154625,00.html

#1580 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks! » 876 weeks ago

And as for the Chinese Democracy curiosity factor.  It's hard to keep up the curiosity for anything for 15 years, don't you think?  How'd those new Star Wars movies do?  People may have been fans of GNR but gave up when the original members started to leave.  Maybe people were interested when GNR reappeared in 2001, but when things fell apart in 2002 more gave up.  The next 4 years brought absolutely nothing to the table to add to any curiosity factor.  By 2006, was there really that much curiosity left?  Well another tour cut short and it looked like more of the same and then, bam, the album came out, out of nowhere really.  Bottom line, I think the curiosity factor is vastly overblown.

That's the crux of his problem right there.  He (Axl) shoots himself in the foot whenever an opportunity presents itself, usually by inaction.  The curiosity factor could have been exploited in 2001/2002 but I have no idea why that didn't work out.  The best explanation was the record company wanted a hit single and Axl went back into the studio and tried to write one or tweak the existing songs to make it sound like a hit.  2001 was the year of the bad excuses for me if I recall correctly as they cancelled a European Tour because Axl just found out about it on the internet.

The problem with Chinese Democracy in all its phases is that at the end of the day I'm not sure how much he has grown the fanbase.  Most of the original GNR fanbase eventually moved on to more active bands or they just dig out AFD, Lies, UYI, and TSI albums.  The fans gained during 2001, 2002, and 2006 tours, grew tired of waiting for the damn thing to come out and some just moved on.  If they stuck around, their initial enthusiasm for the album became restrained  see davegnr2k as an example.

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