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#1571 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 546 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
Neemo wrote:

I thought Bran would end up championing the old gods and the north to lead the white walkers to war against Danerys, the red priests and the fire god zombies (like the Mountain, Dondarion, Caetlyn and JS) ... fire and ice

Or maybe a song a fire and ice is "the ballad of John snow" lol Targaryen and Stark blood

Danerys and Snow will be allies I think. Since I guess that will be his aunt.

She spend most of the story wishing vengeance against the people who took arms against her family... The Lannisters/Starks/Robert. This is even after her advisors other than Jorah (who hated Ned) tell her... things weren't as simple as she was told growing up.

It's completely anti-climatic for their not to be a pay off to that. Her father after all was a villain, in the books it's made clear... she shouldn't exactly expect every one in Westros to declare for her just because of who she is. In the show maybe they will, but it makes no sense to the narrative.

Danny in the books is a little bit obsessed with prophecy. She get's told at one point

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"Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun's son and the mummer's dragon. Trust none of them."

The Lion is obviously Tyrion and whether it's true or not, she's a bit paranoid later on in the story.

#1573 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 546 weeks ago

Ice and Fire tongue. You're are told in the second book that Rhaegar believes someone from his bloodline will be the "Prince Who Was Promised"... the "song of ice and fire".

It's pretty obvious that Jon is a very important character to the story's end game, that doesn't mean though that the story ends in some version of Return of the King.

Most of these characters are fucked in both book and show.

I'm still holding out hope though for Jon vs. Danny towards the end. It has to happen. If Danny ends the story as a hero (in the books) then their's a major flaw in the writing.

Looking forward to seeing some characters returning in the next few episodes.

#1574 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 546 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

One deviation I wish they'd done was to keep Jaime's hand. He's been almost useless since that. What is the point of changing a character that much if you aren't going anywhere with it? A few episodes with him struggling to fight with his left and that's it.

In the books after Jamie loses his hand, he becomes a different character and starts reflecting upon his past. He also essentially starts on a redemption arc soon afterwards, which can't happen in the show... since Jamie just rapped Ceseri randomly in season 4, then decided to go to Dorne, became war hungry and keeps going back to Ceseri.

#1575 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 546 weeks ago

What was your Bran theory?

I don't think it spoils as much as it seems, outside of "Hold The Door" and the Children creating The Others.

Remember that Stannis is probably still alive at this point, the show character "The Night King" is almost certainty not the "Night's King" mentioned very briefly in the books and then theirs Aegon

...And Speaking of the books... we're going to get a bunch of AFFC material in the coming books.

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Riverlands, don't expect the book ending.

Smoking Guns wrote:

Atari does the show frustrate you when it is inconsistent with the books??

I'm okay with certain things being changed from the books.

I'm not okay with plot holes like;

- the Sandsnakes magically appearing on the boat in King's Landing to kill their cousin the prince of Dorne for no reason... despite we seeing them standing on the dock at the end of season 5 while the boats sailed off.

- Bringing back Osha/Rickon just for Ramsay to kill them off for the sake of it.

- Ramsay and 20 good men sneaking into Stannis camp and setting all the supplies ablaze without getting caught, despite the guards saying to Stannis... we think we saw 20 men.

- Stannis burning his daughter, because they were hungry. Despite supposedly being within walking distance of Winterfell.

- Ramsay raping Sansa, because apparently Sansa needed motivation to lead (The Vale which she practically already had in both show/books) to war against the people who murdered her family and took her home.

- Euron suggesting that his small group of men should be building the biggest fleet the world has ever seen by cutting down every tree on a island famous for not having much of anything except rocks (as shown in both show/books). Then the idea that building this massive fleet is going to take a short time.

- Never once addressing who Bloodraven is. Do TV viewers even know who he was or what he was doing, or why Bran had to travel their? The book issue with this is, that Bloodraven randomly suggests he's been in a tree for a 1000 years. In the books it's less than 50 years.

ect. Silliness like that.

#1576 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 546 weeks ago

Yes, years ago. Same with the Children of the Forrest creating "The Others" (Whitewalkers in the show).

Just quickly pointing out, that the Night King in the TV show has nothing to do with "The Night's King" as mentioned in the books. I guess the show just thought it would be a cool name.

Also the Iron Islands are called the Iron Islands for a reason... they're lifeless rocks people mined that they built settlements/castles on. Their are no trees and even if their were... It might take a long time to build a fleet.

In the books the fleet never gets stolen, Euron sends his brother Victarion to Meereen with an awful lot of ships... while Euron uses the rest of the fleet to raid "The Reach" - One of the Seven Kingdoms ran by The Tyrells where Sam's about to visit.

Yara (Asha in the books as she's called) gets out of dodge after she leaves and goes back to a castle she's captured called Deepwood Motte that then get's captured by Stannis. Theon never attends the Kingsmoot, after he escapes Winterfell with Ramsay's bride... they end up at Stannis camp, just before the Boltons/Stannis clash.

Basically the idea in the books is that if Theon had been on Pyke (Iron Islands) after Balon died, he'd been ruler of the Iron Born without a Kingsmoot taking place. They don't hold a kingsmoot every time a ruler dies.

A last thing... Westros is a continent made up with 7 several countries basically. Littlefinger tele-porting everywhere from episode to episode is just bizarre. I know they don't wait a few episodes for him to travel to different locations, but it's just weird.

Anyway tongue.

#1577 Re: The Garden » The Football Thread » 546 weeks ago

While Jose normally does have 1/2 good seasons with a club, before he goes wild trying to get himself sacked...

He did almost get Chelsea relegated before he was fired. Anyway.. United's pain is my joy tongue.

#1578 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » A.X.L. » 546 weeks ago

Bump; only so that the spam topic created by the bot doesn't show up as last post in this section.

#1579 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 546 weeks ago

Tonight's episode btw... leaked online not long ago.

2 major book fan theories confirmed, 2 book chapters butchered, alot happens and plot holes galore... probably the best episode of the season though.

I'm probably the only though more upset about

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Summer than Hodor.

Nit picky comment;

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I know people will like set piece, but I don't know why they couldn't just the Obsidian Arrows and torches (as per book) rather than throwing fire balls. It also would have been cool if they didn't include The Night's King in the episode promo they released last week.

#1580 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's back on his feet again (sort of). » 547 weeks ago

It's good he's off his feet. I hope for the best at the UK shows, that's where the worst crowds could potentially be.

I hope nothing goes wrong there.

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