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#151 Re: The Garden » Holistic therapies, coaching, etc, anyone? » 114 weeks ago

Yamcha wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

These are what we call non-evidence based practices. That doesn’t mean they don’t help. All it means is that no one has ever been able to provide evidence that they make a difference either positively or negatively.

I, too, tried acupuncture but when i push for anyone at all to give me any explanation as to what it does and how it works…i don’t get much in the way that gives me confidence in it. Even the person delivering the treatment cant adequately explain it in a way that even remotely makes sense.

So for me…the fact that there is no evidence of its efficacy, the practitioner not being able to explain what it does and the fact that most health insurance companies won’t cover is enough for me to say ‘this seems like a waste of my time.’

mitchejw wrote:

These are what we call non-evidence based practices. That doesn’t mean they don’t help. All it means is that no one has ever been able to provide evidence that they make a difference either positively or negatively.

I, too, tried acupuncture but when i push for anyone at all to give me any explanation as to what it does and how it works…i don’t get much in the way that gives me confidence in it. Even the person delivering the treatment cant adequately explain it in a way that even remotely makes sense.

So for me…the fact that there is no evidence of its efficacy, the practitioner not being able to explain what it does and the fact that most health insurance companies won’t cover is enough for me to say ‘this seems like a waste of my time.’


Acupuncture is based on traditional Chinese medecine. It's totally different from what we do here in the West. It is not very easy to understand, from our point of view. Yin/yang, male/female, organs, meridians (energy channels), acupoints (that's where they stick the needles!), elements (fire, metal, wood, earth, water) are some of the concepts used in acupuncture. In Chinese medicine each organ represents something - a season, an emotion, a colour, an element, etc. The practitioners  look at your skin colour and can tell what your problem is, in which organ... It seems crazy. I think the main concept is that energy must be able to flow through our bodies in a balanced manner, thanks to invisible channels called meridians. Our energy can get  blocked due to lots of stress, for instance,  and if it remains blocked, we can become very ill. If an organ receives too much energy, it is not good either. It is all about balance.

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I hope I have explained it better. big_smile


My evidence to support that EFT works is that I used it to clear huge levels of anxiety around being in a lift.  I just could not get in one any longer. Not that I ever got stuck in a lift. I think it was that something  happened in an another situation, with feelings of being trapped in a small space, and not being able to breathe, that caused the problem with getting in a lift.

Anyway, this was me just under six months ago:
Feeling very scared just at the thought I would have to use a lift (at work, whilst travelling, at the hospital, etc)
Whenever I felt a bit less of a coward and actually got inside a lift,  the closing doors made me feel terrified. I jumped out and used the staircase instead.
I would gleefully climb up hundreds of stairs if that meant I didn't have to be in a lift! 17
Whenever I was going to some place where I would have to go from one floor to another, I would ask where the staircase was.
If people pointed the lift to me, I would say "I don't go in that".
The worst incident was in August last year: I had a proper panic attack, I started to shout and cry in public. This was it, I had to do something.

EFT did wonders. I used the lift several times today while at work. It's such a change, in so little time. I found a post from 2014 on my Facebook yesterday, and I know it's about the event that caused the problem. Almost 10 years of leaving in fear... Now I just want to laugh it off.

Well I agree, you should definitely consider all options especially when you feel yourself getting worse. My only point was that if I directly asked the practitioner what her goal was, she basically either didn't have one or couldn't articulate it. I was open minded enough to try and because just like you, I was suffering in silence. I did it at least 10 times too.

If something is working for you then by all means, keep doing it.

#152 Re: The Garden » Holistic therapies, coaching, etc, anyone? » 114 weeks ago

These are what we call non-evidence based practices. That doesn’t mean they don’t help. All it means is that no one has ever been able to provide evidence that they make a difference either positively or negatively.

I, too, tried acupuncture but when i push for anyone at all to give me any explanation as to what it does and how it works…i don’t get much in the way that gives me confidence in it. Even the person delivering the treatment cant adequately explain it in a way that even remotely makes sense.

So for me…the fact that there is no evidence of its efficacy, the practitioner not being able to explain what it does and the fact that most health insurance companies won’t cover is enough for me to say ‘this seems like a waste of my time.’

#153 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 139 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

It's kinda weird situation that Noone has Interceded to help Ukraine...is the general sentiment that the west is afraid of Russian nukes?

I think this is why the EU was and is important. It united Europe at least economically...which quite frankly is the only thing that truly unites Americans. If Europe could pull off something similar to the way states are treated as countries but still unify militarily and/or economically then Russia would be relegated to second world status quite quickly.

I don't think either side wants to escalate this much farther. And I also think the Russian military is vastly over rated. Looking back through history, they never had anything but the most soldiers....they've always been disorganized, ill equipped and taken the heaviest casualties.

I want to speculate that Putin has overplayed his hand. His (and quite frankly the Russian government in general) obsession with the past will be his undoing. Righting the wrongs of the past is no way forward even if they did lose 20 million troops in WW2.

#154 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 139 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Thanks for the contribution, Mitch.

It's not my fault that a couple middle aged men need to sit around jerking off about war strategy. Especially when that jerking off is purely speculation and quite frankly, mostly projection.

I'll repeat...no one cares about this anymore. Just like no one cares about how we left a certain middle eastern country in 2021.

Do you know why?

#155 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 140 weeks ago

No one cares about Ukraine anymore.

#156 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 140 weeks ago

It's been really enjoyable to watch the Republicans in the house eat their own. They really have no interest in governing and the clowns that will be in power in the House are going to make the next 2 years an absolute clown show. What an embarrassment. It'll be nothing more than the Donald Trump revenge tour that will be little more than a cough as Gaetz, Green and Boebert do press and hold rallies with absolutely no point or purpose other than getting their faces on tv more and more.

They're in complete chaos with no real objectives, just lots of drama. The Dems should've been slaughtered in the midterms.

The Republicans have 2 years to purge themselves of Trump. If they don't, they'll be giving the house right back.

#157 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 140 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelensky-sig … 24955.html

I know our own media and government have been proven to be in cahoots, but should we really be pretending Ukraine is some bastion of Western Democracy and freedoms?

No one cares about Ukraine anymore but it is fun to watch Russia melt down on itself from a military standpoint.

#158 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 149 weeks ago

Shocking…not one mention of the attack on the speaker of the house, down playing of the roe v. Wade overturn by a bunch of middle age white men who don’t have children…

I think we should just stop having elections and let the mouth breathers in this thread decide things.

I wish i could remember the exact moment that i no longer considered any of you friends. But someone has to occasionally let you know when you’re head is too far up your own ass.

#159 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 168 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

I don't know why I bother and admit this is a mistake even responding to this clown (and yes, you're a clown), but you have no idea how many firearms I have.  You are in no position to judge what "a lot" is, and you can go fuck yourself for suggesting I plan to harm anyone with my firearms.  Yea, I own some guns I plan to use for legal reasons such as big game hunting (you're much morally superior to me buying your protein on a plastic wrapped  Styrofoam plate).

Reason 5,304 Mitch shouldn't be allowed to continue to post here.  He's called me a white supremacist and said suggested I own guns to harm people in the past 24 hours.  Mitch, if you want to make this personal we can go that way.  But you're not going to be happy with the result.

Oh threats...here we go again...reason #1 why you and I can't get along...

I suggested you have an intention of using them...I didn't say for what or upon whom. I personally know and have relatives who regularly participate in game hunting...and the reasons for that are logical and justified...the deer population cannot be sustained in the state of Wisconsin during certain times of year...I'm convinced on that...

But it's still evidence that the only purpose of having a gun is to kill...a point you cannot fully acknowledge.

You made it personal years ago mutherfucker...

#160 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 168 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Hey Mitch, a Battalion is 500-600 soldiers. I couldn’t even arm a squad, which is 6-10 soldiers. But keep flexing those intellectual muscles. Like I said, hyperbole has its place but you’re unable to navigate any of that.

What am i navigating? Yes…i exaggerated…so what?

My point is you have a lot of fucking guns and you only have them bc you plan to use them.

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