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#161 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
Dark will more than likely try and sniff out if you legit have music, then figure out a way to get that music. That’s really all we can say because this argument is going nowhere
I tried to get music but couldn’t get them to bite. Anyone who has managed to get music from hoarders like dark has, and who are a million times worse than however awful you think dark is, gets my respect
#162 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
misterID wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:What other songs do you think are the BH ones
I thoght D Tune is clearly a BH song too even if the members of the band added their stuff to it.Tonto, Dummy, Prom Violence, Mustache, Billionaire, real Doll, have to look back for others.
I’d say Devious Bastard might predate him and he jumped on it, but not sure. Would love to hear a mashup mix with Dummy and Inside Out
Ok so we pretty much agree on most of the songs except for D tune and Zodiac so putting those two songs aside that was my point about how BH brought some of his solo out takes to the band to work on and for Axl to put vocals on.
Shackler’s was pieced together from other Bucket demos like Dr. Frankenstein. I don’t think anything was brought in ready to go. Sorry had the only real structure that was ready for vocals and I think that was made while he was in the band.
#163 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
misterID wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:Zodiac has BHs style all over it, you take all that BH stuff off of the song, I cant imagine how barebones it would be. And like I said, Zodiac probably has Robin and Tommy on it, it still does not mean it cant be a song BH brought to teh band to fully develop more. I also dont see how Zodiac as more Pitman on it than BH. All that BH signature style on it it what makes the song Zodiac
but yeah I could be wrong too. I always viewed Zodiac as being a song written by BH.
what about Dummy, do you view that as a BH song or something that you think was there before he got there>
Dummy is def Bucket
What other songs do you think are the BH ones
I thoght D Tune is clearly a BH song too even if the members of the band added their stuff to it.
Tonto, Dummy, Prom Violence, Mustache, Billionaire, real Doll, have to look back for others.
I’d say Devious Bastard might predate him and he jumped on it, but not sure. Would love to hear a mashup mix with Dummy and Inside Out
#164 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
dave-gnfnr wrote:Bill Brasky wrote:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h_OGJpDVUbc/hqdefault.jpg
AND I QUOTEDave your being a daft cunt and it's been explained to you why countless times why on this matter.
You have 3 people Axl S , Dadud and Llama saying it went down the same way.
Dark post his nonsense filled obfuscation
Like he always does.Now i heard it went down the way 3 people said second hand years ago.
Your basing your whole argument on Darknemus bullshit post.
Isn't Darknemus claim to fame he lied and tricked a hoarder for songs and leaked them ?
That's the guy you think is being honest.You still show how bad your comprehension problem is. And yes I am basing it on what Dark said when he clarified what he said to Axl S.
But sure lets ignore what Dark actually said and what he clarified what he meant but instead keep going with the false narrative.I also love your projection about Dark being a hoarder when it's you who is hoarding songs and selling them for money
but suuure pretend its some other person selling them that you know about and can put people into contact with.
Its you who should be grilled about what songs you have or know about. You are such a fraud
Oh Dave you're a fool.
Where did I ever state i could put anyone in contact with anyone ?
Please qoute me saying that.Also Dave you are ignoring that 3 people told the same story and choose to defend Darknemus who in the past boasted about using deception and tricking people to acquire songs.
How are you blind to this ?
Guys there’s no need for the insults (not targeting you, it’s been going on a lot by a bunch of people and is steadily getting worse) or dragging this out.
Dark has a rep, and not totally good. He will manipulate to get things, and definitely plays games, but he’s also responsible for getting the fan base music. If three longtime members say he said something, I don’t doubt it. I also don’t doubt dark did it to intentionally lure people in to get more music.
#165 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Zodiac sounds like it was put together pre Bucket imo. All the bucket songs on the village recordings are ROUGH demos. These songs are fully put together featuring the whole band, Bucket’s are not. I’m willing to be wrong, but the band already had a shitload of songs already completed by the time Bucket got in the band. Pitman and Axl had already worked out songs like ITW and Maddy. Pretty sure he was heavily involved in Silkworms too.
Zodiac has BHs style all over it, you take all that BH stuff off of the song, I cant imagine how barebones it would be. And like I said, Zodiac probably has Robin and Tommy on it, it still does not mean it cant be a song BH brought to teh band to fully develop more. I also dont see how Zodiac as more Pitman on it than BH. All that BH signature style on it it what makes the song Zodiac
but yeah I could be wrong too. I always viewed Zodiac as being a song written by BH.
what about Dummy, do you view that as a BH song or something that you think was there before he got there>
Dummy is def Bucket
#166 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
Zodiac sounds like it was put together pre Bucket imo. All the bucket songs on the village recordings are ROUGH demos. These songs are fully put together featuring the whole band, Bucket’s are not. I’m willing to be wrong, but the band already had a shitload of songs already completed by the time Bucket got in the band. Pitman and Axl had already worked out songs like ITW and Maddy. Pretty sure he was heavily involved in Silkworms too.
#167 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
There’s just no way Zodiac or DTune are Bucket songs. Not even sure he’s even on them, tbh
These are fully fleshed out band songs. Bucket’s songs are not. Since we don’t know and all we have are assumptions, I’ll go further and say Zodiac screams Pitman to me
#168 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Zodiac, Quick Song, Curly, Elvis and Dtune seem far more structured, produced and polished than Better and Shacklers were at that time. Even Sorry. I’ll be shocked if more than a few of them don’t have vocals. I can’t see Axl being stumped on them.
that is because some of those songs are probably buckethead left over songs from monsters and robots. So they were already done and he just gave them to Axl to put vocals on.
Gotta disagree with you here, Dave. If they were Bucket’s songs they would have sounded like the other Bucket songs. And Bucket never structured songs like those. And these, imo, pretty clearly featured Robin. They sound like they’d been hammered out as songs by the band as a whole.
#169 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 87 weeks ago
Zodiac, Quick Song, Curly, Elvis and Dtune seem far more structured, produced and polished than Better and Shacklers were at that time. Even Sorry. I’ll be shocked if more than a few of them don’t have vocals. I can’t see Axl being stumped on them.
#170 Re: Guns N' Roses » What happened to Axl's voice? » 87 weeks ago
His “Come Together” at the RRHOF with Springsteen was absolutely BRUTAL. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had an operation because he was not the same during the mid 90s.