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#17991 Re: The Garden » U.S. in ‘pointless’ campaign in Iraq, Putin says » 949 weeks ago
It just sounds like he's trying to paint Russia as being as strong as the USSR was because they've lost the fear and respect they had in the 50s - 80s. Considering the USSR history in the region, I think he should probably keep his mouth shut on the issue.
Russia is a major player on the world stage. When the dollar crashes, Russia and not China fills the power vacuum. I find it laughable(and I'm sure Putin does as well) how the US(specifically the media) doesn't take Russia seriously. They are sitting on more oil and other energy sources than the rest of the world combined. Russia makes the middle east look like a puddle of oil at your local auto shop. They have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and Putin has rebuilt their military. Their navy is no longer corroded with rust in harbor.Their military is well rested while the US fights meaningless wars.
While the dollar loses value by the day, the Euro takes its place slowly as the world's top currency. While we pile on the debt by billions a day, Russia continues signing huge agreements with Euro and Asian countries building pipelines throughout the continent.
Russia not strong? Are you kidding? While we sit on a 9 trillion dollar and growing debt, Russia is up to its neck in money. They dont even know what to do with it. Their middle class is booming, while ten years ago their middle class didn't even exist anymore.
Just because Russia doesn't jump into ridiculous wars doesn't mean they aren't strong. Putin is very smart. He isnt going to do what the US and Russia did during the cold war and fight a bunch of proxy wars. He's going to sit back and let us kill ourselves.
#17992 Re: The Garden » What are you eating? » 949 weeks ago
I just ate a bowl of Grape Nuts.
#17993 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy tidbits (RUMORS) » 949 weeks ago
I want that HOB 2001 dvd more than the record at this point, as I know one exists.
I am a huge BH fan, and I consider the 2001 lineup to be the best lineup in the post Izzy era(no offense Bumblefoot), but my interest in that HOB vid has dropped to pretty much zero. The people hoarding that really dropped the ball big time. They could have had every demo in circulation in early 06. Once the 06 tour started and things started moving along, interest in that show and era of the band dropped dramatically.
It was almost worthless in 06, and it really became worthless in 07 when Madagascar leaked, since it was rumored that the main page of the DVD had a studio version of Madagascar playing. That was one of the things that added to its myth.
Will I watch it if it leaks? Yeah. Will I care if it never leaks? No, especially considering we have the CD era's best show already in great quality(Rio 01),.
#17994 Re: The Garden » The NFL 2007-08 Season thread » 949 weeks ago
I only caught bits and pieces of the game. I always flip back and forth when I watch football. I really hope the Pats and Colts are both undefeated when they play. That game is going to be huge. That is turning into a rivalry just like the Dallas-SF rivalry of the mid 90's.
#17995 Re: The Sunset Strip » Spears turns herself in to L.A. police » 949 weeks ago
The teen stars from the 80's were disciples of Mother Teresa compared to these morons.
#17996 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy tidbits (RUMORS) » 949 weeks ago
Its still not believable. If its true, then the fanbase might as well give up now while Axl completely kills off the legacy. Recording AFD in the 97-99 timeframe? Kinda lame, but believable, and since he's lived off the record and toured behind it since, its understandable. Recording UYI era tracks in 2007? Regardless of whether those tracks will be released or not, it means there's not even an album of original CD era material and this project is going nowhere. If you have some vision that Axl has supposedly had for the past 10 years, you dont start recording UYI crap 10 years into the new GNR era with no material since 93.
Its absurd. If its true, a reunion will never happen mainly because all the ex members will die from laughing.
#17997 Re: GN'R Downloads » Request : Rhiad & The Bedouins (live) » 949 weeks ago
Jameslofton wrote:I have a cleaned up version of the HOB version. If I can find it, I'll post it. Sadly, that is the best performance of the song.
If James hasn't done it soon, then i will.
If you have easy access to it, post it up. I was looking for it earlier, but I have way too many cd-rs to be able to track down one random song on them.
#17998 Re: The Sunset Strip » The 10 Greatest Horror Films of all time elimination- Nominations » 949 weeks ago
The Omen (hello people)
I like it but I don't consider it worthy of a top 10 list.
#17999 Re: The Garden » The Rise and Fall of Marion Jones » 949 weeks ago
Marion Jones is probably the saddest and worst 'fall from grace' story in sports history. She wasn't a female athlete. She was a machine. Could've been a basketball star, but decided to go into track and grabbed up a ton of awards and medals. Multi million dollar endorsement deals soon followed. Nothing or no one could stop her, and she was without a doubt one of the greatest athletes, male or female, in history.
I remember watching her compete in the 90's, and I had this feeling she would end up being the first woman to try out for the NFL. It never happened of course, but she had this aura of invincibility about her to where you thought such things were possible.
Then a few years later, she is exposed as a fraud.
This article doesn't really go into it, but its almost comical that she was exposed only because of her taste in men. She not only dated then married them, but they were all athletes who eventually got caught using steroids. One husband even involved in some check scam, which she may do prison time for. Had she dated normal men, she likely never would have been caught. Anyways, no one suspected her of being a drug user until her first husband was caught doing it. The stigma stayed attached to her for years, until her house of cards finally crumbled this year and she had to admit she had been using steroids all these years.
Also, she is financially broke, and the chances of her ever becoming financially secure again are minimal. The only way she will probably ever get a decent chunk of change is if she poses for Playboy(which I'll buy).
She is clearly disgraced in sports for the rest of her life, and her place in history is now cemented.
This brings me to my question: Does she deserve a second chance? Obviously the drugs played a role in her athletic ability, but if she stayed clean, does she deserve another shot at glory? She could possibly get a lifetime ban from Track, but how about basketball? If she's still extremely fast, how about creating a huge amount of publicity by trying out for the NFL?
I know she brought this all on herself, but I actually feel sorry for her and think she does deserve another chance. I know I'm not being very impartial as I was always a fan of hers, but if other public figures get another chance, I don't see why Marion cant have that chance as well.
#18000 The Garden » The Rise and Fall of Marion Jones » 949 weeks ago
- James
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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Track and field superstar Marion Jones stood before an army of television cameras last Friday and pled guilty in U.S. District Court in White Plains, N.Y., to lying to federal investigators when she denied that she had used performance enhancing drugs.
Jones admitted to taking steroids from September 2000 to July 2001 and said she was told by former coach Trevor Graham that she was taking flaxseed oil when it was actually the steroid THG. Jones claimed she didn't realize she was taking performance-enhancing drugs until November of 2003.
The darling of the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney, Australia , Jones won five medals, three gold and two bronze. Now, she is reportedly broke, disgraced, and could be facing prison time.
What makes Jones' admission so difficult for everyone who believed she was clean was the passion and vehemence with which she proclaimed her innocence, even going so far as to file a lawsuit against Victor Conte and the infamous BALCO laboratory.
"I have never, ever used performance enhancing drugs," Jones said defiantly in 2004 in her grand jury testimony in the BALCO investigation. Last year, Jones had a urine sample test positive for EPO, but her backup sample came up negative. But claiming her conscience was bothering her, Jones finally told the truth. Or at least, some of it.
"It's with a great amount of shame that I stand before you and tell you that I have betrayed your trust. I have been dishonest, and you have the right to be angry with me. I have let my family down. I have let my country down, and I have let myself down," a teary eyes Jones said after her hearing, at which point she also announced her retirement.
But the most disturbing thing about Jones' admission of guilt is that she still has yet to take full responsibility for her actions. Throughout her testimony and her subsequent statements, Jones still lays much of the blame at the feet of Graham, using the oh-so-tired excuse that she didn't "knowingly" take performance enhancing drugs. That she trusted her coach.
So, how many world class athletes does this make now who are simply popping pills, spreading on the cream, putting the clear underneath their tongues and sticking themselves with needles that claim to have no clue what they are taking? Forgive me, but I've lost count.
I believe I first heard this saying sometime during Watergate (and by the way, when are we going to stop sticking the word "gate" at the end of every scandal? Enough already, but I digress) that it's not the crime, it's the cover up.
At this point, it would almost be a refreshing novelty to see an athlete who gets caught cheating simply say, "I knew what I was taking. I take full responsibility for what I did."
I'm also not as impressed as some of my colleagues who are applauding Jones for returning her medals, apologizing to her competitors, and asking to have her records vacated. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) was going to do that anyway.
It's often been said that this is a country that believes in forgiveness and second chances, especially in the world of sports. We'll forgive almost anything if it's accompanied by honesty, contrition and taking full responsibility for your actions.
I've yet to hear Jones say that despite what Graham may have told her, she knew she was taking steroids, instead of expecting us to believe she spent years thinking it was flaxseed oil.
If Jones thinks this mess she's in is more Trevor Graham's fault than hers, then she's still lying, both to herself and to us.

