Please let's not let this degenerate into a shit slinging match

I'm not afraid of this thread dunno why you say.that....there is just no point in disucussing something if u guys arent interested in opening ur eyes to the fact that at least imo ur right to bear arms is outdated and dangerous to your general public, mass murders in schools and theatres is all the proof I need that shit isn't working, but aparently I know nothing so I am bowing out, still monitoring tho so let's keep it civil or I will shut it down

Also saw a movie with Russell Crowe called "the next 3 days" was good

Saw this yesterday....I was kinda dissapointed

They changed a lot.of.stuff from the book and even added stuff....easily half the movie coulda been cut

i dont think anybody here is even is damning US society, and i have been to probably about 10 different states, and grew up within a stones throw of Michigan, visited there many a time, and drivin through from ontario all the way to tennessee (like 12 hours) also visited texas, in fact i am pretty americanized as a canadian, i grew up on Detroit television, (i even say Z not zed), i know feet, inches, miles, lbs, farenheit better than the metric equivialnts, i grew up on MTV not Much Music, I grew up on American rock radio not the canadian content crap you see up here

anyway you guys are throwing the "you provide no viable fixes" we arent trying to fix anything, but when kids get shot in a school you'd think a reasonable person would think about trying to do something to make the youth safe....its sad that it has even come to this level tbh, and it makes me sad that the citizens of the USA, supposedly "the most civilized country in the world" and the answer is more guns and give them to teachers? take a step back and think about that shit...its fucked and i cant beleive you guys dont see it

and all of us outsiders have said we know your country wont have an easy time of it and that it would take decades but you guys just gloss over that part of our posts

all we have been doing is citing examples of gun control in our own countries of origin...ultimately its gonna come down to the US citizens deciding what is gonna work best..and god help us all at the decision...i have a feeling it'll be the same ol same ol, and every once in a while a mass murder will happen...eventually somethign has to give though...schools should be a safe haven for children...and its been a long time in the US when things have been safe in Highschools...now the parents in the USA have to worry about elementary schools too...when is enough enough? thats somehting for you americans to decide...i wont deny its gonna be a long hard road either way

all Canada is, is USA with stricter gun and liquor control, universal health care, a fucked up Gov't system, weird football rules and a bad army

Divney is right tho....u guys are right on the defensive about this stuff, take a step back and see if things are the way they should be....if you are happy with your freedoms good and bad then who are we to make you change? its a very sad and unforunate situation though

i had to attend a funeral for an infant not too long ago...that shit tore me up man, to see a little baby that didnt get a chance to do anything? man oh man one of toughest things ive ever had to do...now imagine doing that for 20 odd kids...its fucking terrible and shit like this shouldnt happen and any procaution needs to me made to stop it from happening again, these people will never hug their children again...and its not cuz of mental illness, its cuz some crazy bastard managed to get a god damn glock...an instrument designed soley for the purpose of killing humans...from his mother....if you are not in the army and stationed somewhere then you do not need a fucking glock....nothing you say will change that fact

U guys are goin in circles....my US friends, ur insistance on a right to bear arms is ridiculous and outdated...ur right its not the wild west anymore, who needs more reminding? The folks in American urban areas with sidearms or non Americans? I like the USA, but in all honesty I always feels.safer when I get back on the Canadian side of the border...

To my non us friends, the arguments are falling on deaf ears, they either don't get it, or refuse to get it...or maybe the rest of the world doesn't know what we are talking about....

In any case u guys are going in circles

I tell u one thing though, I saw on the news today that Utah is going to train teachers to carry firearms in elementary schools....that is fucked anyway u slice it, do we really feel.safe when our youth's caregivers need to carry weapons? Before you reply, seriously thinkk about the implications of this idea