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#1881 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12 GN'R shows in Las Vegas » 714 weeks ago
exactly...same old same old. I would imagine Izzy shows up quite often...which is cool.
#1882 Re: Guns N' Roses » North American Tour Stats for new Gnr » 715 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:tejastech08 wrote:Axl was working on November Rain before GN'R even formed. Don't Cry was the first song Axl and Izzy wrote for GN'R. And I'm pretty damn sure YCBM was written before AFD came out. And I'm not a "huge" Izzy fan. I just think he doesn't get the respect he deserves since everyone obsesses over Axl and Slash.
Axl started to write NR in the early 80s. Doesn't mean it was anything close to the song we got in 1991. Not at all. Slash wasn't even around, and he made it an all-time great with those 3 magnificent solos. Nobody's saying that Rocket Queen is a Roadcrew song, although the main themes were written years before GN'R. Same goes for NR.
I'm not a DC fan, although it was a popular song off UYI. But the twins had more popular, and even more better tunes.
YCBM wasn't done at all. That's why it didn't make AFD.
I repeat it: Civil War, Locomotive, Estranged, Coma, Double Talkin' Jive all were written after AFD. So I think they became even better songwriters after the success - but unfortunately the band fell apart, because the ego management failed.
I love Slash's solos on November Rain, but there is a pre-AFD acoustic demo of it that doesn't include those solos and it is flat-out phenomenal. Chill-inducing to be honest. Axl's voice is very haunting in the demo version. It was a great, great song before any electric guitar was ever added to it. The songwriting is beautiful.
As far as Civil War, Locomotive, Estranged, Coma, and Double Talkin' Jive are concerned, I'll take Jungle, It's So Easy, Nightrain, Brownstone, Paradise City, My Michelle, Sweet Child O' Mine, and Rocket Queen over the songs you listed. Appetite smokes that material.
I don't even know where to start with this! The best of the Illusions destroys AFD lyrically and musically. Hands fuckin down. I'll give ya the big three SCOM, WTJ, and PC but after that...ahhh fuck it. Ain't worth the time.
ID, you are correct. No reason to speculate. They literally didn't make it past UYI and the record stands as is.
Always look at bands in their prime anyway. When I think Stones, I think 68-72, Gnr 87-91, U2 85-91, Aerosmith 73-77, The Who 68-72, Zep 69-71...etc etc etc. Sometimes staying together doesn't work. It just becomes a cash cow and the albums become one single and a bunch a shit. Obviously there are exceptions. The Gnr guys were way too different in influence and personality to make a long go of it.
#1883 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12 GN'R shows in Las Vegas » 715 weeks ago
RussTCB wrote:BLS-Pride wrote:I could hook you guys up with some fine psychedelics out there if wanted.
I would end up exactly like Hunter S. Thompson... not good
faldor wrote:I've heard great things about the strip clubs in Vegas, but I had one experience that was pretty awful. We went to Crazy Horse II, paid the $15 cover charge, walked in and it was packed to the gills. We walked through for 5 minutes and left. Big waste. Didn't get to see much, but the girls didn't look any extra special. One other time, a girl gave me the option of a lapdance or a back massage. It may sound crazy, but I went for the massage and it was FANTASTIC. I'm not talking any happy ending or anything either, it was just a legit massage. But it felt amazing. $20 well spent.
That's my thing, is it just seems like a waste of time and money over all. But then again, I'll gamble and drink for hours which could be viewed as the exact same I guess.
I went to a strip club in Vegas once for my brother's bachelor party. Let's just say the coolest thing was being in the VIP room and having Adam Corolla poke his head in. I've never been a fan of being teased...always viewed it as a waste. It's not like you can do anything with them, and quite frankly if you could, would you really want to? Way too much risk involved in so many ways. The good part is that I didn't spend a dime other than chipping in for my brother to get a lap dance.
At least if you're gambling, there's something good that can come from it...I don't see anything positive coming from the strip club. I guess I'm way too practical for it.
Ha...I agree.... can't touch or more importantly get touched, then what is the point of being teased?
#1884 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12 GN'R shows in Las Vegas » 715 weeks ago
what the fuck was that? I hope not....
#1885 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12 GN'R shows in Las Vegas » 715 weeks ago
Is that an actual band photo there???
Slash isn't in it, is he?
It's Slashba...not Slash....Slashba is the Slash of the 22nd century....:beer:
Happy Friday fuckers.:peace:
#1886 Re: Guns N' Roses » North American Tour Stats for new Gnr » 715 weeks ago
good post otto...just another thread to start the bashing. I actually just started the thread more as documentation of numbers so that when someone makes a crazy comment (both negative or positive) you can keep them in check with FACTS.
Somehow this got turned in to an Axl bash fest. Imagine that....I wish I had worldwide tour numbers to show the other side but those are VERY hard to come by.
#1887 Re: Guns N' Roses » North American Tour Stats for new Gnr » 715 weeks ago
Sly Stone is up there for wasted talented.....he's a nut too...bigger nut than Axl.
#1888 Re: Guns N' Roses » North American Tour Stats for new Gnr » 715 weeks ago
you'll see him in a strip club WAY before a studio! 
#1889 Re: Guns N' Roses » North American Tour Stats for new Gnr » 715 weeks ago
2.6 million $s for 14 shows? I'm surprised that Axl is still interested in touring the same show for the zillionth time. I expected a higher sum, although with this attendance, you really cannot have more.
those 14 shows were played in small theatres...thus, the UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL tour as it was called. I don't think they did that one to make money...not at all. I think they actually did it for fun and for the hardcores.
#1890 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best band Neemo vs Russ » 715 weeks ago
Neemo since it looks to be a more coherent "band"...WAY to many egos in Russ' band.
