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#1901 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

on the Slash/Axl thing....in the end, creative differences. Period.
FROM CHINESE WHISPERS...some funny shit in here: 16

"But there was a point there where Axl goes: 'I'm gonna do a solo record, and I'm gonna get Trent Reznor and Dave Navarro, and the drummer from Nirvana...' and so on. And it's like, he doesn't even know half of these people. He's just pulling them out of the sky. And I was like, 'Cool! Do your thing. That way you'll get it out of your system, and when you get back we'll just be Guns N' Roses.'" (Slash, Metal Hammer, 11/95)

"At one point he said he was gonna a solo project, then he decided his solo-project he could do with Guns, which I was like, after doing all those videos and this and that and the other, I was like: "No". [laughs] No, I don't wanna get involved in any kind of Stephanie Seymour ballads or any of that shit." (Slash, Canadian Radio, 04/20/95)

"Aftonbladet: You, Duff McKagan, Gilby Clarke... The most people in the band have made records outside Guns. Isn't Axl going to do a solo-record soon?
Slash: Axl thinks that Guns is his solo-project." (Slash, Aftonbladet, 04/02/95)
 
Snakepit - Rejected!

In early '94, Slash met with Axl on the demo songs that would eventually surface as Snakepit songs.

"I started hanging out with Matt and recording demos of that stuff just for fun, and Mike Inez from Alice in Chains and Gilby started to come around and play with us. The three of us just got into a groove of jamming and recording every night. We didn't know what it was going to be. At some point I played it for Axl, who took a pronounced disinterest in it." (Slash, Autobiography)

"On the first Snakepit-record I used some ideas which were really planned for the next GN'R-record, but Axl and I disagreed on the future direction of the band. I played Axl a demo with some of my ideas for songs, and all he said was: "I don't feel like playing this kind of music." I answered: "But this could be a excellent Gunner-record, hundred percent in GN'R style." He didn't really care 'cause he only wanted to play industrial and Pearl Jam-sounding crap." (Slash, 'Rock Hard' Magazine, 03/00)


"The Snakepit album could have been the new GNR album, but Axl didn't think it was good enough." (Matt, 1996)

"Kerrang!: How's the next GN'R album progressing?
Gilby: "There is no 'next GN'R album'!"

K!: EVER?!
G: "I don't know about ever. For now. We started working on one, and it got canned."

K!: How come?
G: Well, it's an Axl thing. He just wasn't into what we were doing, so he's kind of rethinking what he wants to do. He just kind of threw a wrench into everything that me, Slash and Matt had worked to. And then Duff came in. Duff and Axl have an idea what the album should be, and the rest of us have another idea." (Gilby, Kerrang, 05/24/94)


"What people don't know is, the [Slash's] Snakepit album, that is the Guns N' Roses album. I just wouldn't do it. [...] Duff walked out on it, and I walked out on it, because I wasn't allowed to be any part of it. It's like, 'No, you do this, that's how it is.'" (Axl, MTV, 11/08/99)

"I didn’t walk till several months after having 3-4-hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash, trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off." (Axl, MyGNR, 12/14/08)

#1902 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

and by recording over/drowning out alot of Izzy's guitar parts on UYI. There are alot of references on the subject but unfortunately I don't have them at my fingertips. If you guys don't think Slash was on a powertrip as well, then you are as much in LA-LA land as the Axlites. You should re-read Axl's side of the story sometime in the online chats. He has some very good counter punches to your arguments about the breakup and the name issue. While I think he exaggerates some, there clearly was a major major power struggle going on between him and Slash from 94-96. Slash didn't give a shit about Izzy being gone. It was more power and control for him. Gilby did whatever Slash wanted and that is why SI sucks and Snakepit sucked. But, I digress....

To continually put your Slashite blinders on in every single situation, is just as lame as what you guys criticize on a daily, hourly basis. It takes two to tango and Slash, in my eyes, is just as big a prick as Axl. He is just better at hiding his prickness. 21

#1903 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

Slash played a big role in Izzy leaving as well...just for the record.

#1904 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

Izzy quit before Axl got the name. Izzy and Steven had NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the name. That was done when the partnership was just Duff-Slash-Axl.

As for making and releasing an album....10 fuckin years to get 14 songs right and some art/booklet info. It is/was a joke.

Monkey, agree on the relationship part--that is pretty obvious. Somebody in the know at the Velvet Rope indicated Tommy may not be too happy right now.

#1905 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

the music was recorded/done according to Beta in late 2007. However, it
wasn't mastered until October of 2008.

"'The album was completed before Christmas,' [Beta] says, 'but everyone knows that. We're in negotiations now with the record company...'" 
chinese whispers 2007

I always assumed that to mean that all the completed songs for the entire Chinese sessions were fully mixed and recorded, then after they chose the final tracklist, they mastered the final 14.

#1906 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

exactly...the new band was in existence for 10 fuckin years. He screwed the pooch ID. The only way to get it right in my eyes would be to release it as a double with a whole new batch of Chinese session songs attached to it. And, remember, he claims to always have thought of it as a double so why not release it all together with proper artwork and move the fuck on? He isn't going to sell alot of records one way or the other so release it all for your hardcores (which he still has a good amount of on a worldwide basis).

#1907 Re: The Garden » Axlin » 716 weeks ago

Damn JR, sounds like a mess....good to see you back.

#1908 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 716 weeks ago

In my opinion, the only way a re-release would make sense is if he packages it with the "alleged" second album of songs from the old recording sessions. Give the fans 2 albums for the price of one or simply do a boxset for the hardcores.

A single release with no extras would be silly...which measns it will happen!:haha:

#1909 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 717 weeks ago

agree on ITW and will add Prostitute and Madagascar as well...I prefer the demos of Riad, IRS, TWAT, and CD.

#1910 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating.... » 717 weeks ago

in the end, I am not a fan of the guitars..too many of them and too pitchy in a lot of spots.

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