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#11 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 26 weeks ago

Bill Brasky wrote:
James wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

The pop, and subsequent slide are predictable. New songs targeted to an artist with a base of x-millions of subscribers will create a huge initial imprint. Everyone listens to the song when they get the notification on their phone, then moves on with their lives.


Just like the other drip feeds, they can't even get a hefty portion of their own subscribers to click on their videos.

GNR have 13.1 million YouTube subscribers

Atlas: 649k views

Nothin' 827k views

About 10-15 of those views are me. yikes

They are an anomaly. Most major acts get more views than subscribers.


While it's nice to get 1-2 songs every other blue moon, this approach doesn't work on any level. For various reasons, it's impossible to get any traction under these circumstances. It would require a highly unlikely incident where one of the songs go viral.

The band doesn't comment no matter what and the fan base tires of the new song(s) within days. With a non interested general public, where can the songs realistically go but down?

They're already disappearing from the Spotify charts.

But Team Brazil and Axl had brilliant marketing plan !

Delay the songs while they're touring and release them 5 months before their next tour date !

Also make sure you use the shit mix job from a guy (Caram) who’s been gone from the band's employment for 2 years !

Ha! It really makes little sense. Release singles in between touring cycles to help sell tickets for the next tour? Are they selling more tickets now because of these two songs? We’ll obviously take what we can get, but it’s puzzling.

And I’m assuming Team Brazil was behind the drone show to promote tickets going on sale for the tour. I’ve also heard there are billboards promoting the two songs in LA. So it’s like they do show signs of life but do nothing with the band to back it up. It’s silent marketing. It would almost make more sense if they did nothing because we know they’re not going all in.

They came out with a music video that no one expected for Perhaps. That was awesome. Then they came out with that AI video for The General. That was, something. They even had lyric videos for other songs. Nothing for these latest songs though? Meanwhile Monsters sits collecting dust. None of it makes much sense to me.

#12 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 26 weeks ago

James wrote:



faldor wrote:
faldor wrote:

Not that I expected these songs to be smash hits but they don’t appear in the iTunes Rock charts yet. Never mind the overall top 200. Are they still too new? I tend to remember their other recent singles at least climbing the charts initially before they were forgotten. “Perhaps” especially since there was an actual music video.

I guess it was just too early, Nothin’ is now #1 on the iTunes Rock chart & Atlas is #2. They’re all the way up to #5 & 6 on the overall chart. Initial buzz is there, but it won’t last when they do nothing with it.

That's amazing and you're right...they'll sink like a lead balloon because there's any follow through.

Look what happened with Perhaps. It was actually getting some attention that first day or two and then....boom...it was over.

The slide has begun. Nothin’ is #7 now & Atlas 10. They peaked at 3 & 5. Still solid, but there’s always momentum when they release these songs & they do nothing with it.

#13 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 27 weeks ago

faldor wrote:
faldor wrote:

Not that I expected these songs to be smash hits but they don’t appear in the iTunes Rock charts yet. Never mind the overall top 200. Are they still too new? I tend to remember their other recent singles at least climbing the charts initially before they were forgotten. “Perhaps” especially since there was an actual music video.

I guess it was just too early, Nothin’ is now #1 on the iTunes Rock chart & Atlas is #2. They’re all the way up to #5 & 6 on the overall chart. Initial buzz is there, but it won’t last when they do nothing with it.

Update, Nothin’ jumped up past All I Want for Christmas is You to get to #3 and Atlas is at #5. Interesting that Nothin’ is getting more love than Atlas. I wouldn’t have guessed that prior to hearing Nothin’ in full. Definitely agree though. Song is really growing on me. Doesn’t hurt that they were somehow able to keep that one under wraps all these years for the most part.

#14 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 27 weeks ago

I’ve bought all 6 new song on iTunes but I haven’t bothered with any of these physical releases. I’m happy to fork over $15 for a full length CD or whatever they cost these days. But I’m not buying all these random packaged releases. To each their own though, there must be a market for them. I’m old school and to be honest I wouldn’t even buy the individual songs if I had any faith in them releasing an album. That ship called Faith sailed away long ago though.

#15 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 27 weeks ago

sp1at wrote:

Whatever it is, it works for Axl. He's still alive and he seems to trust them. And he seems happy.

And they've got Universal and Livenation around them to guide them through the mechanics of  today's musical landscape.

Everyone is flawed at the end of the day,

I agree. TB gets a lot of hate, and I totally get it, but I do think they’ve kept Axl sane over the years and in the business. Granted they let him work at his own pace, and don’t seem to push him in any real way but he had lots of issues with managers before they took over and he was obviously fed up with the industry.

Who knows how much of it is incompetence on the part of TB or if it’s more Axl only wanting to do so much. I mean they had a damn drone light show to announce the tour in LA. Was that necessary? It’s like they want to do things but certainly not to the level of most bands their stature. Is that their fault or are they doing what they know they can get away with?

And by the way, I am really digging Slash’s work on Nothin’. Seems like a song Axl could pull off live too, until he gets to the high parts. Sounds great in studio, we’ll see in a live setting.

#16 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 27 weeks ago

faldor wrote:

Not that I expected these songs to be smash hits but they don’t appear in the iTunes Rock charts yet. Never mind the overall top 200. Are they still too new? I tend to remember their other recent singles at least climbing the charts initially before they were forgotten. “Perhaps” especially since there was an actual music video.

I guess it was just too early, Nothin’ is now #1 on the iTunes Rock chart & Atlas is #2. They’re all the way up to #5 & 6 on the overall chart. Initial buzz is there, but it won’t last when they do nothing with it.

#17 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 27 weeks ago

I’m in the camp that likes Nothin’ more than Atlas. Pleasantly surprised with how it turned out. The first song in a long time that we haven’t had much to go off when listening to the Final Cut, so maybe that was a factor. I don’t think Atlas is bad, but the lack of freshness probably contributed.

Not that I expected these songs to be smash hits but they don’t appear in the iTunes Rock charts yet. Never mind the overall top 200. Are they still too new? I tend to remember their other recent singles at least climbing the charts initially before they were forgotten. “Perhaps” especially since there was an actual music video.

#18 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Album thread 2025 by sp1at » 28 weeks ago

I’ll never pass up new songs but what the hell kind of timing is this release? Taking advantage of the Holiday music buying crowd? Simply to go along with the tour announcement and tickets going on sale? Doesn’t it make more sense to release songs closer to the start of the tour? Ultimately it doesn’t matter because the songs will come out and the band/mainly Axl won’t do anything with them. Unless things are different now? Nah, can’t be.

#19 Re: The Garden » NFL 2025 » 32 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:

I’m a pats fan and watching Drake Maye throw the ball is eye popping. He alone is the reason they are having success (also they have a dogshit schedule).

Maye has been fantastic the last 4 weeks. He was good the first few weeks but too many turnovers. He’s played mistake free since then. Needs to stay out of harm’s way though when scrambling out of the pocket.

They have played a really easy schedule. Thing is though, it doesn’t really get much tougher the rest of the way. They only have 3 games remaining against teams that currently have a winning record (Falcons, Bucs, Bills). They do face the Ravens, Bengals, and Giants who I guess aren’t pushovers but they could go 3-3 or better in those 6 games. It’s all about health and taking care of the football though. They need to tighten up their pass defense too. They’ve been making bad QBs look better than they are for stretches this year.

#20 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2025 Tour Dates » 32 weeks ago

FlashFlood wrote:

They have songs for an album, sure.

Absurd
Hardskool
Perhaps
The General
Nothing
Atlas Shrugged

And maybe Monsters. Two up-tempo hard rock songs on a GnR album (being Absurd and Hardskool)? Hopefully the other 3-4 songs would be real GnR rock but it’s obvious that’s not happening

I just listened to Slash with Eddie Trunk and he did confirm they’ll be playing US dates in 2026 and there should be an official announcement soon. He said he has the next Conspirators record is done but they’re not releasing it until 2027 because that’s the next time he has free to tour around it, etc. Crazy, but at least there is a definitive plan that you can actually count on.

It seemed like there was probably some sort of an agreement to not talk about new GNR music because Eddie never brought it up despite going over everything else Slash is working on. He did ask him what his favorite songs are that Guns has been playing though and he mentioned the Thin Lizzo cover they’re playing. He then mentioned that there were two new songs, but they haven’t been released yet and then he mentioned “The General” and he said he really enjoys opening with WTTJ again. So I couldn’t tell if he was talking about two new songs they haven’t played yet or if “The General” was one of those new songs that haven’t been released on a normal scale? I’m guessing the former though. Maybe “Nothing” and “Atlas”. Who knows though. He did follow it up by saying once anything is official he’ll talk about it, so same old line.

What the hell happened to “Monsters”? Makes no sense that leaked and then it gets totally ignored.

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