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#1991 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
Intresting...
http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/47703
Guns N' Roses have denied they have sampled songs after being hit with a $1million lawsuit last week.
Legal papers claim that the band illegally copied songs from Ulrich Schnauss which ended up on their last album, 'Chinese Democracy', but the band are now challenging those accusations.
"Guns N' Roses vigorously contests these claims and intends to respond accordingly," the band’s manager Irving Azoff said in a statement. "The band believed when the record came out and still believes that there are no unauthorised samples on the track."
The songs in question by the German electronic musician Ulrich Schnauss, were apparently sampled on the song 'Riad N' The Bedouins' and Schnauss' attorney told Rolling Stone that Guns N' Roses had no clearance to use them.
"The band and the record company are ultimately responsible for copyright infringement," suggested Brian Caplan, Schnauss' attorney. "I can tell you that there is no paper trail authorising the use of these songs and nobody from the plaintiff's side authorised the use of this song."
#1992 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
I thought the figure touted on forums was much less, I cant remember.
#1993 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Arcade Madness - Round 2, Battle 15 » 891 weeks ago
Vice City, loved it from start to finish. Got bored of SA and never finished it, and all that "yo nigga" shit wore thin pretty quick.
#1994 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
From wost of what I've read most of the media has been having a good laugh at GNR, I'm not making it up cause I'm on a forum and want to be negitive, all I have to do is type guns n roses into google news and have a look.
Anyway...
The math on Guns N' Roses' long-awaited Chinese Democracy is not promising: no tour, no videos, no interviews and now, one lawsuit.
Five days after news broke that two independent record labels filed suit against Axl Rose's band and the Universal Music Group on Friday over claims that a Democracy track illegally sampled two songs from the German electronic artist Ulrich Schnauss, the Guns camp came out blazing with a denial.
"The band vigorously contests these claims and intends to respond accordingly," manager Irving Azoff said in a statement released on Tuesday. "The band believed when the record came out and still believes that there are no unauthorized samples on the track."
According to Azoff, the snippets of ambient noise that open the song "Riad N' the Bedouins" — which the $1 million lawsuit claims are taken without permission from Schnauss' compositions "Wherever You Are" and "A Strangely Isolated Place" — were "provided by a member of the album's production team who has assured us that these few seconds of sound were obtained legitimately."
The Schnauss songs came out in 2001 and 2003, respectively,while the Guns album was in the works for more than 17 years beginning in the mid-1990s. Unless the case goes to trial, it might remain unclear which song, or songs, came first.
After years of delays and endless tweaking, Democracy was released in November and has sold just under 600,000 copies to date in the U.S. In the statement, Azoff appeared to be shifting the blame, if there is any, to the unknown member of the production team, adding, "Artists these days can't read the minds of those they collaborate with and therefore are unfortunately vulnerable to claims like this one. While the band resents the implication that they would ever use another artist's work improperly and are assessing possible counterclaims, they are confident this situation will be satisfactorily resolved."
Azoff promised that the band's legal and production team would formally respond to the complaint soon.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/162329 … oses.jhtml
600,000 US sales....
#1995 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
Olorin wrote:Today, Azoff said the band ... intends to respond accordingly.” He added the band and production team’s legal reps will be responding soon
Soon?
I wouldn't hold my breath for this.
This, but mabye I misread it. But Axls lawyers are not exactly slow off the mark, I thought the soon gag was aimed at a band responce. My bad 
#1996 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
No, what it said is, the bands and production teams legal reps will be responding, it will be a legal procedure. Not that the band will be making a responce, if thats how you read it, as if the band will be making some kind of announcement.
#1997 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/i … -a-sample/
Guns n’ Roses manager Irving Azoff has formally responded to claims the band illegally borrowed music from two songs by German electro artist Ulrich Schnauss on Chinese Democracy’s “Riad N’ the Bedouins.” As Rolling Stone reported yesterday, the Independiente and Domino labels announced they were suing the band for $1 million in damages, alleging the ambient noise at the top of the Gn’R track was created by Ulrich and used without permission. Today, Azoff said the band “vigorously contests these claims and intends to respond accordingly.” He added the band and production team’s legal reps will be responding soon, as well. His full statement follows:
“The band believed when the record came out and still believes that there are no unauthorized samples on the track. The snippets of ‘ambient noise’ in question were provided by a member of the album’s production team who has assured us that these few seconds of sound were obtained legitimately. Artists these days can’t read the minds of those they collaborate with and therefore are unfortunately vulnerable to claims like this one. While the band resents the implication that they would ever use another artist’s work improperly and are assessing possible counterclaims, they are confident this situation will be satisfactorily resolved.”
#1998 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
After browsing the forums, one thing I've suspected for years has been laid bare, some of these people who do a hell of a lot of gum flapping on the internet, havnt got a bloody musical ear whatsever.
How can you not hear they are the same thing? 
#1999 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
someone on mygnr pointed out something pretty relevant (doesn't happen often):
Apparently, on Rock Band, this part of the intro is left out. I downloaded it on RB, by I seem to recall the intro being in, can anyone confirm this?
If that's true, that certainly helps this suit. They left out the samples from Maddy, too. Harmonix had all their bases covered, maybe that's what caused the delay of the release of the DLC.
Thats right, it just starts with guitars. I wouldnt be suprised if the intro was removed by GNR beforehand purely because of this case.
Madagascar is different because of all the movie quotes and MLK, apparantly Axl had to meet with MLKs family to seal the deal with regards to getting approval to use his speech. Mabye using it in something as trivial as a computer game is a big No No.
#2000 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago
Hmmmmn... in an interesting example of mainstream media being more even-handed (and accurate) than GnR fan forums, BBC news' headline is "Guns N' Roses sued over 'sample' "
Not "plagiarism" (HtGTH & MyGnr), not "copying songs".... a sample.
Just saying....
Are Reuters mainstream? Coz they broke the story and the headline said "Record labels sue Guns N' Roses for copying songs"
