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#2001 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

Precious time... wrote:

It must be a library synth sound they have both used, i cant see GNR ripping someone else's idea.

Riad has been out sooo long via live performances that this guy could have ripped it off and then claimed the credit!

That intro was unique to the album version, it was never played live.

#2002 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

Handsome B. Wonderful wrote:

1. He demands a stop of the sales of Chinese Democracy.

2. He demands a stop of the distribution of Chinese Democracy.

3. He demands a stop from further pressings including the intro in Riad N' The Bedouins.

4. Oh... And he also want a mere million dollars.

5. What the FUCK is this guy smoking?

Judging by his soothing sounds, he must be quite the stoner 16

#2003 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

I remembered a post about the Riad intro being on Top Gear (UK car programme on TV), the video was pulled but I seen it and agreed it sounded like a piece of the Riad intro. The scene was somewhere up north and they were driving across a snow covered landscape.

Anyway, at the end of the thread someone identifies it as being from an Ulrich Strauss song, November 29 2008. Thats pretty quick work 14


http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?sho … h+schnauss


Then on December 17, someone else identifies the other part of the intro as another Ulrich Strauss song

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?sho … h+schnauss

#2004 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

I cant see it being the kind of publicity that encourages people to download Riad, most of what I've read has been mocking Axl and CD. Would be nice to be wrong though, the most far out and unlikely single on the album becoming its biggest hit big_smile

#2007 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/ … ngeme.html

Welcome to the jungle - of the courtroom.

Rock band Guns N' Roses is in legal hot water after being accused of stealing material from a German electronic music producer.

A copyright infringement lawsuit filed in Manhattan Federal Court claims the song "Riad N' the Bedouins," from the group's latest album, "Chinese Democracy," used two of Ulrich Schnauss' recordings.

The suit names Geffen Records, group frontman Axl Rose and nine others who collaborated on the much-anticipated, long-delayed album that was released November 2008, 15 years after the band's last studio production.

Domino Recording Co. claims in the suit it advised Geffen on Feb. 26 that the Guns N' Roses song steals from Schnauss' tracks "Wherever You Are" and "A Strangely Isolated Place."

The opening portion of the song contains samples of both recordings, said Brian Caplan, a lawyer for Domino.

In responding to the February letter, Geffen "attempted to explain it away," Caplan said. "They tried to justify it."

Litigation was a last resort, he added. In the requested jury trial, a music expert would have to show that the samples were "electronically copied verbatim without authorization," Caplan said.

Calls to Geffen were not returned.

The suit asks for a halt to all sales and distribution of the platinium-selling "Chinese Democracy," which sold over 3.2 million copies worldwide.

It also demands at least $1 million in compensation.

The suit is the latest chapter in the troubled history of the album, which took nearly two decades and millions of dollars to complete

#2008 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

Ahhh, thats possible as well. I've used sampling software before and its stated quite clear that all the samples have been cleared and are legal for you to make your own music out of, it would be suprising that a slightly illegal one found its way into GNRs illustrious studios. If it has, all they have to do is produce the source they sampled it from.

Buts its even more suprising if this was directly lifted from Ulrichs song and GNR thought noone would ever notice, its quite a puzzler.
I hope GNR make a public responce, but I'm not holding my breath.

#2009 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

Well we know from the state of that booklet they published,  not everything was examined with a fine toothcomb. As a matter of fact, quite a lot regarding the release was overlooked, shame really hmm

There still is the possibily it is software samples cleared for use by anyone, I hope it is and this guy gets laughed out of court. Could well just be a ruse to generate publicity to his music on a global scale.

#2010 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Sued For Copying Songs » 891 weeks ago

Mikkamakka wrote:

I think they (or Pitman) didn't necesserly 'stole' it. Some unknown, but good enough synth parts appear in various 'loops and samples' databases. I hope I worded it right.
The bigger problem is that they felt (probably in the last minute) that they needed some intro and didn't create one, but used a 'ready' loop.

That was my thought months ago when this first emerged, but this guy Ulrich is a bit of an electronic whizz, could be he created them from scratch because his versions are part of a much larger melody.

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