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#2221 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction 25th Anniversary Fan Pack » 751 weeks ago

Aussie wrote:

The above is what most disappoints me about the Slash vs Axl feud. We are never gonna get anything other than the shit above from the early days. We are gonna have to wait until they are dead before we get anything cool.

Shame because I am a fan of the music, not of any one side. I just wanna hear and see cool music. I want remixes, remasters, demos, video etc. why don't these fuckers wanna take my money from me by milking this shit? Because of some petty fucken feud. Very sad!

they're fucking asshole's.

the two of them are ruining it for everyone.

#2222 Re: Guns N' Roses » Newcastle UK Metro Arena - Classic Rock Review » 751 weeks ago

war wrote:

the author is reviewing the show for the masses, not us

so what? what's your point?

the parameters of the review, the scope of the review, any review, discussing the song selection & playing is as valid a criteria for judging the show as as the late starts.


& that review is for Classic Rock Magazine readers. it's not like it's appearing in one of the daily newspapers.
my point there is, i think a lot of the Classic Rock readers would be willing to read about the politics (for want of a better word) of the show. & maybe more importantly, a lot of them will have experienced the show at some stage & wondering if there's anything new for them - 2 of my mates didn't go the 2 most recent times they've played Ireland partially due to familiarity of their previous live experiences (fwiw, the other main reason they didnt go was the gigs took place on a weeknight). & they'd read Classic Rock. & i read it & i'd want these things discussed in the review.
& i gotta wonder about the motives why the review didn't go into detail on it. i'm p sure they're still beholden to the seriously misguided belief if they don't criticise Him too much He'll maybe deign them worth of a World Exclusive Interview someday, cause really they've always been that way & always will be. (& what's really crazy it's cause that's the way He wants it!)

#2223 Re: Guns N' Roses » Newcastle UK Metro Arena - Classic Rock Review » 751 weeks ago

war wrote:

...the scope of the review.

the author is reviewing the show in itself
you are reviewing the show based on management and the politics of it all

The show in itself must be judged in the politics of it all. the review is lacking in scope.
These are important standards & criteria, & it's as worthy for acknowledgement as the late starts - or for that matter the plentiful good things about the show. If you're critiquing the show these things should be in the scope of the review.



& it's not that they're not playing enough CD, it's more that they're playing it at all. Monkeychow is otmf$ a/the idea they should be playing CD2!
(just trying & imagine the scope of the thing if that happened btw, it's a genuinely interesting idea)

Re: AFD/HoF - even if that is what's selling tickets, it's not an official tie-in/celebration tour & axl p much crapped on it even if it was styled as such so I don't really see your point??? If people are coming for AFD that's fine, but it doesn't say on the ticket that's what they'll get, y'know?

#2224 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Stone Roses Begin Reunion Tour » 751 weeks ago

Axlin12 wrote:

I still don't even know who the fuck these guys are.

Ever heard of Oasis?
What about The Beatles? They were these four guys from Liverpool...



I kid of course. The Stone Roses were very much a UK phenomenon. They captured a moment, the rock band for the acid house-era. They incorporated that rave-style sound into transcendent trippy pop-rock anthems. & they did it majestically.

Seriously I can't recommend highly enough. Smoke a big bifter & fire on their debut. It's great music.

#2225 Re: Guns N' Roses » Newcastle UK Metro Arena - Classic Rock Review » 751 weeks ago

Well mate, 2 things -

1: joe public is a moron

2: I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea that the crowd would be bored/requesting old stuff. & if they were/or did then see pt #1
There's more at stake than winning a popularity contest.

#2226 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl's voice overs in GTA: SA » 751 weeks ago

Remember how awesome it was driving over Shady Creek & up into San Fierro w/ Axl & Skynyrd Freebird for company?

Ah.. We spent a great summer together that summer..

Until the shitty stealth missions like in the casino & the shitty aeroplane flying threatened to ruin it..

But it was great while it lasted. Unforgettable!

#2227 Re: Guns N' Roses » Newcastle UK Metro Arena - Classic Rock Review » 751 weeks ago

I don't want them to say that at all. I know, I've seen this show & it is a fun & often tremendous show.

But it's not a separate issue.
The material is old. Even the 'new' material is old. That has to factor into a complete assessment of the gig.

I'd go as far as saying highlighting a 4yo album (6yo really) would be more relevant than talking about the 'late starts'. That's where the criticism of these shows should really lie.
The rehashed material is more damaging to the credibility & enjoyment of the shows than the late starts.

#2228 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 751 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
johndivney wrote:
misterID wrote:

How am I avoiding the point? You don't have a point, only a butt-hurt opinion. It's his band, he never ventured into solo territory, I understand why he kept the name, that it means much more to him than you and me combined, he started it and everything... It's his name, not my place to tell him what he should or shouldn't do with it. You disagree, fine.

Mikka, you are a joke. Period. Your zealot over-reaction says everything about YOU. You have my sympathies.

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Calm down a bit. I'm "butt-hurt"? Ok if u say so but I dunno what about..

If you understand why he kept the name then explain it to me. That's the point I'm getting at.
From what I can tell from ur posts/attitude u seem to buy into the retroactive BS lies about it being his name originally. My point is its p clear he took the name due to the financial benefits & brand power.
I don't see why we can't discuss this respectfully. & to me the cowardice exhibited in taking the name is still apparent & manifest in todays stasis. In fact you're the one acting butthurt cause people have different ideas on the validity of axls behaviour.

johndivney wrote:

& also, it was mrID that steered the convo in that direction. Seemingly in the hope he'd get the reaction from the likes of Mikka that he got. & then he has the gall to bitch about it!

Uh, no, you brought up the name thing, not me. I was responding with the simple statement that it was his band. very easy to understand. You guys coudn't handle that for whatever reason. I'm being respectful, until you guys start accusing me of silly shit. Of course he knew the name would help him. It was his band, that he never left, never wanted to leave it. That's how I took it and understand why he's not going to drop the name. Not even over a fan(s) opinion, just to make them happy.

He started the band, he was in it, he didn't have to give it up, he kept it. That's the long and short of it, I reckon. We weren't in the band, our pinions on what he should do with it means dick.

You keep mentioning your pissed at him for breaking up your favorite band in almost every thread, for every topic, explaining your position. That's where the butthurt comment comes in.

I was [half] joking about him (& Slash, but I guess you missed that tongue ) wrecking the band, in this thread. But you knew that...

'let the insanity begin'???

Again, I only mentioned the name to speculate on his motivation & it's something I think is still relevant.
I don't care whether he dropped or kept or stole the name & how to measure its success. I care about it as a means of judging his ambition/desire in relation to new material, which is the topic of this thread. I think the reasons for his taking the name are still evident today & in what he's doing. It echoes in his behaviour all down the line, that hes more interested in bizness one-up-manship & power than creating & connecting. Ive explained this often but you seem intent in bringing the argument round to 'well its his band he can do what he wants' which really isn't my point.

& btw the idea of it being 'his band' is surely an oxymoron or something. You cant own a collective, you're part of it, you share a band. But that's nitpicking. Hmm... Maybe the Stalin thing does bear some comparison after all...

#2229 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 751 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

Sorry, but the "He's only selling tickets because of the name" argument is beyond old and busted.

Ftr, that is not what I'm suggesting or alluding. I'm speculating on his motivation.

& also, it was mrID that steered the convo in that direction. Seemingly in the hope he'd get the reaction from the likes of Mikka that he got. & then he has the gall to bitch about it!

#2230 Re: Guns N' Roses » When's Album? » 751 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

How am I avoiding the point? You don't have a point, only a butt-hurt opinion. It's his band, he never ventured into solo territory, I understand why he kept the name, that it means much more to him than you and me combined, he started it and everything... It's his name, not my place to tell him what he should or shouldn't do with it. You disagree, fine.

Mikka, you are a joke. Period. Your zealot over-reaction says everything about YOU. You have my sympathies.

15

Calm down a bit. I'm "butt-hurt"? Ok if u say so but I dunno what about..

If you understand why he kept the name then explain it to me. That's the point I'm getting at.
From what I can tell from ur posts/attitude u seem to buy into the retroactive BS lies about it being his name originally. My point is its p clear he took the name due to the financial benefits & brand power.
I don't see why we can't discuss this respectfully. & to me the cowardice exhibited in taking the name is still apparent & manifest in todays stasis. In fact you're the one acting butthurt cause people have different ideas on the validity of axls behaviour.

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