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#221 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 164 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:monkeychow wrote:The story about the downs teen sitting in the chair is very sad.
I'm not sure if society wise the solution to that is aborting him from the start though.
I worry that's the road to a eugenics themed society.
Like to take it to extremes...my life is pathetic from the perspective of a wealthy person living in Monaco...but I'd rather fix my life than be put out of my misery. Easier said than done I guess though.
The real question is can you put your money where your mouth is? Can you tolerate the increase in health insurance premiums to take care of someone else's child? Are you going to complain about taxes going up to build and maintain more group homes?
Because if you can't, then your pontificating seems to be missing something.
Dude, he’s just saying he feels bad that kids are being aborted simply for having Down syndrome. I just made the same point. He didn’t kick your puppy.
Btw, it’s very right wing of you to begrudge the existence of a poor child because your taxes go up. Plot twist!
I’ve already made my decision and I’ve made it numerous times. The healthcare and well-being of everyone in this country is important. And I don’t complain about the premiums and I don’t complain about paying taxes in a blue state.
My biggest gripe is with the people who are pro life or anti-abortion who don’t want to pony up when it’s time to pay for those policies.
#222 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 164 weeks ago
The story about the downs teen sitting in the chair is very sad.
I'm not sure if society wise the solution to that is aborting him from the start though.
I worry that's the road to a eugenics themed society.
Like to take it to extremes...my life is pathetic from the perspective of a wealthy person living in Monaco...but I'd rather fix my life than be put out of my misery. Easier said than done I guess though.
The real question is can you put your money where your mouth is? Can you tolerate the increase in health insurance premiums to take care of someone else's child? Are you going to complain about taxes going up to build and maintain more group homes?
Because if you can't, then your pontificating seems to be missing something.
#223 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
On the disability stuff, I think it's easier to get it if you're a child if you have legit medical documentation.
This couldn’t be any more false. It’s no wonder the average person walks around thinking the system is fucking them.
#224 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:James wrote:One of my ex drug dealers had two special needs kids with his second wife. He pulled in several grand a month just on them.
Without hesitation... absolutely.
Part of it boils down to what Flagg mentioned...
Who takes care of them when you're dead?
Reminds me of what happened to my mom when she worked at a place in MO that took care of the disabled when she was between careers....
She cleaned up the facility... including doing their laundry. She had to go to their rooms. In one room was a teenage boy who just sat in an empty room in his wheelchair... doing nothing. He got no visitors and nobody else cared. She used to come home and cry thinking about him. Years later she would wonder if he's still alive and sitting in that chair.
That is horrifying. No one deserves an existence like that. Abort him.
Your first comment about your ex drug dealer getting all kinds of money needs evidence. I serve this population and i have no idea what you’re talking about.
It's not hard to figure out....
SSI
That's two grand(maybe more) right there
Maybe another disability check as well
Welfare (maybe a grand, not sure how much you'd get)
Cherries on top....
I think he got some kind of grant for a local school for special ed
Food stamps
That's entering lower middle class lifestyle right there... especially when you factor in he was on SSI, and his wife and two teenagers got welfare.
Imagine how much total food stamps he got for a family of six.
He owned two new cars(electric) and also owned a Dodge Ram. Lived in a nice house too.
I still don't understand how he was able to own all this stuff while on public assistance...but not that surprising. My aunt Teresa and her husband owned a home in the late 90s-early 2000s and they were also on SSI and welfare.
He used to joke about not even needing to deal drugs....and I finally realized it wasn't really a joke. Like most drug dealers, he was mainly dealing to feed his own addiction. The trickle of cash coming in from drugs was pure gravy to the main course of government money.
That’s interesting to me bc so many families i work with say SSI is a dead end. All the righting and renewal processes. Even if you win you lose.
#225 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
Do you have to be antagonistic and/or victimized about everything? I told you to look into things like social security. Christ, dude, act like a grown up. Fwiw, I took SG’s post as a reply to mine about abortion legislation.
While you criticize me for being antagonistic you shrug at another’s antagonistic comment. This is why i get so frustrated here.
#226 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Having a special needs kid gets you all kinds of financial help, so you’re wrong there.
One of my ex drug dealers had two special needs kids with his second wife. He pulled in several grand a month just on them.
Should Down syndrome babies be aborted for having Down syndrome?
Without hesitation... absolutely.
Part of it boils down to what Flagg mentioned...
Who takes care of them when you're dead?
Reminds me of what happened to my mom when she worked at a place in MO that took care of the disabled when she was between careers....
She cleaned up the facility... including doing their laundry. She had to go to their rooms. In one room was a teenage boy who just sat in an empty room in his wheelchair... doing nothing. He got no visitors and nobody else cared. She used to come home and cry thinking about him. Years later she would wonder if he's still alive and sitting in that chair.
That is horrifying. No one deserves an existence like that. Abort him.
Your first comment about your ex drug dealer getting all kinds of money needs evidence. I serve this population and i have no idea what you’re talking about.
#227 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
Libs gonna lib. What dumb asses.
This will probably get ignored by incompetent mods on this board who only see fit to reprimand people when it fits the agenda.
#228 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
I feel like sometimes you have a disassociation disorder, ID.
#229 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
Did I say it doesn’t matter? We were having an actual discussion before you jumped in with, WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!
Remember when you swore up and down Trump would not leave office and we’d all be in the midst of a civil war right now? You were even going to buy a gun. I told you he would probably claim he didn’t lose but he would leave office. You didn’t believe me, you believed the progressive scare tactics. You’re doing it again.
Yup…that’s what i did.
Minimize Trumps impact all you want.
I do now currently own a gun.
Trump still claims to be the president.
#230 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 165 weeks ago
To show how worthless Chuck Schumer is, Susan Collins and Murkowski have said they will support codifying a federal abortion protection bill as long as it’s not for 9 months… like the bill that just failed because it couldn’t get enough Democrats to support it. He said no, he’s not compromising, and will bring up the same bill that just failed.
How can anyone think he’s a good leader?
Why bother…we couldn’t get 60 votes in the Senate to cure cancer.