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#2331 Re: Guns N' Roses » Oh My God » 903 weeks ago

Quote from: yorch on Today at 12:07:05
I love Oh my God, but it really sounds like a demo, why? I'm sure we all would love a new version.


Because that's all it was, only at the time having just got it together only Jimmy Iovine knew that who wanted it to sell their soundtrack. I saw segments of the movie which were good. As a whole later not so much but it wasn't ready yet then. I did write an experimental piece inspired by the bits I'd seen called "Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and me?" ;D

#2332 Re: Guns N' Roses » Oh My God » 903 weeks ago

I'm reading the chats again by the way, another question or muse:

The name helped the music more than you could ever know and I’m not talking in regards to studios or budgets I mean it as in being pushed by something and having to get the music to a place where I can find my peace regardless of what anyone says. And that wasn’t fully achieved until the last round of mastering and swapping out a version of a track at the pressing plant that had gotten inadvertently changed at the last minute.

I missed this, I guess this is where the 15 track rumour came from. He said a version of a track was swapped, not a track was removed.
So what do ya think it was? I hope it wasnt Catcher... sad

#2333 Guns N' Roses » Oh My God » 903 weeks ago

Olorin
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During the Axl chat when he was denying Chinese Democracy was his solo record, because a solo record of his would be much more instrumental, he said:

"The instrumental I wrote for End of Days that’s more a solo effort at least presently."

Is he talking about Oh My God or a proper instrumental featured in the film that isnt on the soundtrack?

#2334 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best album of the 90s- Nominations » 903 weeks ago

Tool- Ænima
Guns N Roses- Use Your Illusion I
Guns N Roses- Use Your Illusion II
Metallica- Black Album
Pantera- Vulgar Display of Power
Pantera- Cowboys From Hell
Nine Inch Nails- The Downward Spiral
Dr. Dre- Chronic 2001
Dr. Dre- The Chronic
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
Pink Floyd- The Division Bell
The Prodigy - Experience
The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
The Shamen - Boss Drum
Utah Saints- Utah Saints
Bruce Dickenson - The Chemical Wedding (noone picked this WTF 10)
Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar
Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Manic Street Preachers - This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours
Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
The Verve - Urban Hymns
Guns N Roses - Live Era
Roger Waters - Amused To Death
Dandy Warhols - Come Down

I want to included Queen Greatest Hits I and II and 2pac Greatest Hits,is that allowed?

#2337 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New GNR vs old GNR/ GNR vs Velvet Revolver thread » 903 weeks ago

Scraped, Dont Damn Me, Breakdown, The Garden, Estranged - theres a lot of songs where Axl opens up. My favourite song is Breakdown and his line:

I've come to know the cold
I think of it as home
When there aint enough of me, to go around
I'd rather be left alone

I think it sums him up perfectly. The fact I've felt like that most of my life makes me love the song even more.

monkeychow wrote:

To be fair to axl also, as much flack as he cops, some of this shit would be insanely scary to do. You'd need to believe in yourself so much to be able to write an AFD and then try and contiune writing works, to front massive crowds, to attempt to change styles, to go on despite the loss of iconic players like slash or guys with skills like bucket that are 1 in 1000. I can totally understand why sometimes it would just seem too much.

Whatever the reason I hope he finds happiness as a human, he deserves it for all the pleasure he's given to thousands the world over with his music. And of course as a fan, in an ideal world hopefully he can find that peace and still peform and give us music at times, but it may not be that way I guess.

Oh absolutely, I'm not trivializing his problems cause he is rich and successful, it takes an incredible amount of passion, determination and courage to do what he has done.

I hope he has found peace as well, personally I got a kick out of seeing him in 2006 looking so comfortable and content on stage, he looked like he really wanted to be there. While I liked aspects of 2002 very much, Axl was a shadow of himself and didnt look completely comfortable in his own skin. The VMA performance gets ridiculed but I find it kinda sad, I see a guy dying on stage, the way his lips and voice trembles during Madagascar looks like a guy desperately trying to hold it together.

#2338 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New GNR vs old GNR/ GNR vs Velvet Revolver thread » 903 weeks ago

Perhaps whatever condition Axl has that made him seem to become more seclusive, moody and unpredictable to the people he worked with back in the heyday, has not went away as he has aged but got even worse.
He has been so sporadic with this new GNR, everything seems to come in little bursts of activity and then they just cease and all the band members just dwindle away to do solo stuff.
Then he's back and its on again, the wheel starts turning faster and things start happening and then the wheels come off once more and once again the band drifts away to do solo work. Its a never ending cycle.
I think the new guys are privy to whatever Axls problem is and sensitive and sympathetic about it, thats why they stuck around so long generally and noone he has worked with post 98 badmouths him for his erratic ways.

He says he hasnt been diagnosed bi polar, but mabye he has been diagnosed with some other neurological condition that affects his day to day life, and having that diagnosis allows people around him to be more understanding of his behaviour than they were in the days of the old band, when he didnt know what was wrong with him.
From some of his interviews then, he always seemed to seeking answers about himself, have various types of theropy, councilling etc. He made that remark about being bi polar in an interview because he had done the questionaires in one session and they said he was probably bi polar, but even when he said it in that interview, he sounded totally unconvinced in the methods used to make that diagnosis and didnt believe it was true.

"I've not been diagnosed as being bipolar though many misconstrued statements I made earlier as alluding to such..."

I think he is referring to that interview, Rolling Stone or something.

I hate playing armchair phycologist cause I dont know squat, but sometimes I think that because he had so much success in the past and made so much money, its just become too damn easy to stay for long periods in his secluded comfort zone when he needs it, and avoid the stress's, that because of his neurological make up, he  finds harder to deal with than other people do.
Less well off everyday people who are as unpredictable as that are under constant pressure and stress, bouncing around from job to job with long periods of unemployment, because they just cant function to other peoples schedules and reguarly end up getting fired or quit.
Axl doesnt have that stress, he marches to the beat of his own drum,  cause he has so much money and since he became the sole top dog in the band, it gives him ever more leash to not conform with the norm.
All this sleeping during the day shit and emerging at night is another example of him not pushing himself to leave his comfort zone.
Was it Duff who said one day he was at the studio in the middle of the night and Axl still hadnt appeared and he was like "what the fuck am I doing here in the middle of the night, I cant do this anymore, fuck it I'm going home to my family."

#2339 Re: Guns N' Roses » Zutaut's Thoughts On GN'R & BH » 903 weeks ago

There must be tonnes of different versions of songs from those sessions, with Bucket taking the lead on entire songs, same goes for Robin. If you have that much time on your hands your going to play around with all the material and try come up with something. Axl just pieced different contributions together.

I wonder who played on the album version of Catcher before Ron came in and added his parts over the top? There must be a Bucket/Robin version in the vault that was ready to go before giving Ron the song.

#2340 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best album of the 90s- Nominations » 903 weeks ago

Suprised to see so many nominate The Chronic and not mention Doggystyle, which Dre described as his attempt at producing the perfect gangsta rap album, I think it was definently the stronger of the 2.
Even though the Dre/Snoop "G-Funk" sound was pioneered on the Chronic and launched Death Row, they perfected it on Snoops following album.

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