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#241 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chris Pitman suing Axl Rose for unpaid 2011 wages » 504 weeks ago
It's a bit hard to get anywhere without the actual documents, but there've been rumors about lax back pay in 2011. Take the the stolen documents, for one.
009-010. January 2011 email about cutting everyone's pay (part 1-2)
026. January 2011 Caram Castanzo email complaining about back pay
Axl cried poverty back in 2011... Pitman says Axl wrote him a promissory note for the $125,000 he was owed for more than a year's worth of work... In the suit, he says that amount was supposed to be paid by Oct. 2012 -- but Axl never bucked up, and he's been radio silent ever since.
The question is, what exactly is the timeframe Pitman's referring to - touring in 2010 or 2011? Also, in October '12, the band played at the Bridge School benefit shows with Neil Young (and that horrible case of strep throat), followed by the first Vegas residency. Pitman would tour with the band for another year and half, work with Axl in the studio by putting together the NITL teaser and whatnot, and finally, throw down the gauntlet because he'd been slighted over the reformation tour.
Point being, Pitman seems to have had ample opportunities to settle his back pay with the band. Looks to me like he agreed to postpone his pay to stay in Axl's good graces and now that sour grapes are abound, he wants his cut. While he may be entitled for compensation, a lawsuit is a nasty way to go about it, particularly after all the pissing in the wind he's done in the past year.
#242 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chris Pitman suing Axl Rose for unpaid 2011 wages » 504 weeks ago
So, being on a salary in Axl's band only pays $100k per year? Damn, and I thought these guys all were on huge retainers...
In 2001, a "combined [monthly] payroll for seven band members... exceeded $62,000, with the star players earning roughly $11,000 each".
Inflation adjusted, Pitman's request is around $7,000/month on the 2001 wages. It's probably what he's always been paid for active duty.
Brain talked about a huge retainer paid to him in 2006, which was still when money was abound. If it's derived from their monthly wages, stay away long enough and you'll get a pretty penny from the intervening months/years when coming back.
#243 Re: Guns N' Roses » Conspiracy Theory Time - Has Axl had a stroke? » 504 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4nN0Ua6eI
Pretty slurry here, too, for whatever reason.
He does sound more clear here. It can be a combination of things, depending on the day. One reason may be that his voice has thickened through age.
#244 Re: Guns N' Roses » San Diego » 506 weeks ago
I personally think GNR could have reunited in 2005 if it wasn't for Beta turning away slash. It makes you think.
Quite possible. While I care little about one certain wrestler, I do believe him when he said Beta was "obsessed" with Slash, going on about him without prompting. As Axl's personal manager, the mature thing would've been to say, "Axl, let's hear him out, he wants to get a court case out of all our hands." It could've been done through intermediaries, at first, but at least a lasting line of communication would've been created. We would've gotten Slash on stage at Hammerstein, in the best of cases.
I see she's still calling people idiots.
This is the exact song and dance routine that went on at HTGTH in late 2006. Essentially, cyberbullying. Inexcusable behaviour for a person in her position; attacking her employers audience. What's more, we're used to this, but the AC/DC crowds, they're just learning that Axl has a ridiculously hostile management. Bravo, Beta. You just made Axl come out like a real douche, as it looks like he's ok with that. Getting bored with having less influence over the NITL tour?
I doubt angus wants that type of publicity.
That's a good point. Angus' band is hanging by a thread and this person, an official representative of his lead singer, is engaging with the fans in a hostile fashion. However you slice it, Beta is directly harming the AC/DC brand with her tone. Angus will be crossed when he finds out.
#245 Re: Guns N' Roses » San Diego » 506 weeks ago
Yup, methinks it's sour grapes from Rudd and that he's using Axl as an excuse for his continued absence. Nevermind the legal troubles that put the tour in jeopardy - that was all Rudd's doing, and he was in house arrest to begin with, prompting the need for a replacement. Looking at how Angus manages the band, the door was swung shut for Rudd prior to the tour and it's looking to stay that way.
Meanwhile, Beta - of all people - has been chiming in on Instagram.
I’m sure all of you wishes Brian would be there, but Brian is sick and for God sake, just appreciate what’s up there and stop being so selfish. Grow up and stop complaining. This is also about Angus and his mates, have some respect for them. Brian chose to leave due to health issues and Axl is helping his idol. I guess haters will always be haters and have nothing better to do than shit on other people.
You are an idiot @guitar_boy111 and by the way, his name is spelled Axl.
Do them a favor, don’t come or watch any shows. They don’t need assholes like you around. You are an illness to both band.
Sheesh.
#246 Re: Guns N' Roses » San Diego » 506 weeks ago
The former AC/DC drummer is looking to stay out, apparently.
Rudd said he would not rule out a return to AC/DC but said for now he was focusing on his own music with "Badge and Spence.''
"If Angus wanted me to play then that is up to him... but I don't really want to play with Axl Rose... I don't really rate him."
Too bad for Phil, as he is the classic era drummer, with all but one Bon Scott albums and Back in Black.
#247 Re: Guns N' Roses » San Diego » 506 weeks ago
Ten to one, that month will be for Axl's recuperation. He's touring his ass off this year, have to give him that.
Looking at the big picture, I have feeling Guns have a progressing plan in the line of 'if all goes well'. The reformation needed to be established as a stable, professional lineup (via Coachella and the other warm-up shows), to placate the US promoters. A stadium tour in this day and age is a big monetary risk. They've delivered and now have control of their own destiny.
Just that, imagine how many people in and around the camp gulped at Axl's metatarsal. It could've thrown an immense spanner into everything. Ditto the Axl/DC tour. The Euro tour may be the last leg, and after that, all bets are off. Expectations for new (unreleased) music are growing and they'll have a leg to stand on with the label. But who knows. In case new things come about, I would imagine Axl & co. would make themselves available for promo.
#248 Re: Guns N' Roses » San Diego » 506 weeks ago
All things considered, is it a surprise that he's sparing his voice to last throughout 4,5 months of continuous touring?
AC/DC kicked off the NA tour leg yesterday night and he's got his work cut out for him - this may be their last tour.
He's got the legacy of Bon and Brian to look out for, and the responsibility to end the beleaguered tour on a high note (forgive the pun).
It does seem like touring with Angus inspires him in a different way than belting out the AFD choice cuts.
Good gig for him, cherry-picking his favorite tunes from the extensive back catalogue, whilst staying on stage for the solos (instead of scurrying for a swag swap) and leaving the ego ramp to Angus. And that sea of lighted horns is vast.
#249 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 507 weeks ago
All we have so far is the Download date which is 9-11 June. I would imagine there will be about 20ish dates around this date. I cannot see the band stretching too far beyond that in one stint.
20ish dates would roughly translate to 50-60 day itinerary. That's pretty much in line with what they'd done in the past. I agree that it's doubtful they'll overstep their mark. They want to make money instead of spending it.
I am completely ignorant of the logistics/revenue behind it, but could that be a time to do an "intimate" series of smaller shows to mark the AFD 30th?
They currently have, what, 20 trucks? A club tour to commemorate AFD (with Izzy and Adler) would be a hoot. Slash would prolly love to do it. But that would be a decisively different animal from the epic NITL tour.
again, I hold no hope for new music unless Slash and Duff work on Axl's existing vault.
Axl wants his stuff from the CD sessions to come out, eventually. He's said so himself and he's still mighty proud of the work done.
It really only needs to be Slash as he will be the big selling point. Where is the time going to be to do this?
Depending when they want to release things, really. Slash can come up with solid things relatively quickly. His stuff can be done in a week or two. it's Axl who might take forever in combing the guitar parts.
They could amalgamate Slash to a number of CD2 songs in the space of a month, if they wanted to.
New music won't make any money no matter who plays on it so it gets put last.
Quite so. Which is why I got into thinking, when would this tour come to an end? At that point, it's a judgment call for Guns - either retire all pretensions and collect the pensions, or forge ahead, with a new album excusing them for another tour in 2018.
#250 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 507 weeks ago
There's a strange addition that there might be some focus on the Use Your Illusion albums for the tour (unless I am reading it wrong). Odd.
If I should hazard a guess... They've so far had around 9 AFD songs (out of 12) in heavy rotation. They may wish to cater the European crowds by shaking things up with more sprawling songs like Locomotive, Pretty Tied Up and Breakdown. Less about the hard rock nostalgia and more about their further musical development. Would also be more fun for them.
Wanted to ask you about tour routing and longevity.
They're getting back on the road fast next year. The Japanese tour leg is starting on Jan 21st, followed by Oceania through the first three weeks of Feb. Canada might also be a possibility before the summer, should they want to keep busy.
The European tour leg would be likely to be built around festival appearances like Download. Past tours suggest a timeframe from late May to late July. After that, it seems to be pretty open season; they've toured all their usual haunts. One would imagine the sheer scale of the tour restricts them somewhat, they can hardly do one-offs with that production without a huge overhead.
Perhaps an optimal solution would be to have the tour pave way for an album for Christmas 2017. They could get back on the road early into the following year and do it all over again.
