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#241 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 174 weeks ago
Awesome proshot footage of CoC in a club recently. Met a woman who claimed to be Pepper’s mom (I think in Hawaii 2014). She saw my GnR shirt and said her son was Pepper in CoC and played with GnR in the 90s. Not sure when that was but fuck it I believe it.
#242 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 174 weeks ago
Great example of recency bias is the love for Scraped on the first few pages of this thread. Probably speaks to the thirst for real rock on the record even if the song doesn’t hold up after a few listens.
#243 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
Oh jesus christ Darknemus. Good for him, done a lot for the community. But still probably Pittman! (Half joking.)
#244 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
James wrote:Oh there was definitely more to that leak.
Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.
There was also other trades going on at the same time.
We all know who the Chairman is right? It's fairly common knowledge who was writing those poems and who was supplying the tracks.
Are we allowed to say in public?
Based on who it is - I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material given their pre-2019 track record.
No clue. Pittman?
#245 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 174 weeks ago
To better remember what happened 15 years ago around now I went looking for Skwerl’s article about the 2008 leaks on Antiquiet and it seems that site is gone? Eventually it turned up here:
https://steveleeds.wordpress.com/tag/guns-n-roses/
This part is interesting:
“The story I got from Steve was that a year prior, a friend of his, a courier of some kind, walked into Jimmy Iovine’s office, and walked out with a CD. Ten tracks; these nine, plus another version of Better that I never bothered to get from Steve.”
Oh, and this:
“Jarmo from the GNR fansite Here Today… Gone To Hell came across news of the leak. He immediately notified Fernando Santos, who checked it out, and then did a Whois lookup on Antiquiet.com to get my phone number so he could talk tough to me.”
And this, which suggests that THE BAND TAKES ACTION ONLY WHEN LEAKS OCCUR:
“Chinese Democracy was finally released on November 23rd, 2008, exclusively at Best Buy, about 20 weeks after my leaks. That’s from no concrete plans, to going up on shelves. Pretty quickly, especially if we’re talking about the poster child for album delays. What did we know about that deal? Best Buy paid a large up front sum for the exclusive, at least seven figures, by all reports. We obtained evidence showing that the value of that exclusive was determined largely by the media hype my leaks had created. UMG had shown Best Buy charts of Google traffic for Chinese Democracy that started spiking in June, and was riding high. The iron was hot, so to speak. And before Best Buy got on board, the only heat source was the fire under my ass.
We started noticing a peculiar trend. Maybe it was all coincidence, maybe none of it was, or maybe something in between. But every time there was a major development in my case, there was a promotional event that seemed to capitalize on it. I would attend a scheduled court appearance, and a single would drop. Or the album art would be revealed. Or there was a tour announcement. I forget what lined up with what; at the time, I wasn’t sure if it was calculated, or our imaginations getting out of hand. So I wasn’t paying very close attention to that thread, but it was one that David and our PI would point out regularly.
What I do believe is that UMG used my leak to their advantage.”
Consider what happened with the storage locker leaks preceding the “Absurd”/“HS” single.
Which suggests that if we do want to hear “The General” …
A leak may indeed be what takes to get an official release.
If I’m Axl, I’d want the original The General out there before the Slash/Duff version. Have your cake and eat it.
#246 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 175 weeks ago
For me, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal releasing Absurd and Hardskool. I’m not getting finicky at this point. Playing CD and VR songs is kinda lame though.
I don’t think playing CD and VR songs are lame, I just think when they play them, they are treating them as the equal of new music. That’s lame. Like this tour you’re busting out Street of Dreams and Prostitute when you actually, obviously, have something “new” in the can with Perhaps. Why?
#247 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 175 weeks ago
Saw the litho somewhere and it has skeleton renderings of frank, melissa, fortus, and dizzy. Is that a first?
#248 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 176 weeks ago
We have to get over the voice thing…..don’t go to the show. Bono sounds like shit now too. They are old! I read an interview with Maynard from Tool. He said he just can’t do some of their older material because it is too physical.
There is nothing wrong with being a nostalgia act when you are 60 years old.
I agree with this. Also worth noting he makes up for it with stage presence. Contemporaries of his don’t. Anybody see Jovi lately?
#249 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 176 weeks ago
I’d love to hear Grohl isolated to know exactly what he is playing on PC. Seems more like a pantomime.
#250 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 176 weeks ago
Stream link?
