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#271 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
She was a petite woman vs a burly cop and wtf are people being arrested for no mask?
#272 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Woman, just tasered for not wearing a mask.
More misuse of power.
#273 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Jesus I don't know how I missed that. Very sorry to hear that and for your loss.
#274 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
That was a good well thought out answer and I agree for the most part. 2nd degree and all that agreed.
I have seen the other videos, it still doesn't excuse the misuse of power, which we agree on.
I think what I mainly disagree about is I believe the evidence is there and sufficient.
#275 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Well whether you believe it or not it happened. Of course the cops will get off, but the whole world seen that video and stood with you. They weren't duped ffs.
Are you trying to tell me the cops didn't aid in his death? Because that's what it sounds like and if that's what you believe then I would say you are the minority.
What are you talking about carotid chokes for when that isn't what we seen. We seen a man slowly suffocate from his back and neck being restricted.
I'm actually concerned for your objectivity tbh. The day Lloyd died you came on here saying how he deserved it and was resisting and shit. Then when folk called you out you said you hadn't seen the video. Something I doubted but didn't question.
But here you are again and you seem to be edging back to that totally uninformed position.
#276 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Pretty much every post I made had a question or multiple.
Lloyd ain't no martyr and whether he had drugs in his system or not they are responsible for his death.
Bringing up his past is serving what purpose exactly? It seems to me a strawman rather than deal with the issue . Dragging his name through the mud before discussing how the cops killed him seems very disingenuous. It's like you must bad mouth all these victims in order to justify why you feel the cops are getting a raw deal. They ain't. This shit has been building for decades. People are sick of it.
Not saying that is how you feel, but it sure is how you come across.
#277 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:Let me get this straight. You want me to believe people who think it's ok to strangle a man to death with their knees and shoot men in the back seven times, seriously?
Noone caused this only the corrupt police themselves, and until the good cops start addressing it they will continue to get away with it.
Here is another example. We know there is a lot of corruption in the force. How many cops report other cops yearly? I bet that is a fun statistic.You assume that the Minneapolis police meant to kill him. Maybe that was Chauvin’s state of mind, but I believe if you consider the video that shows what happened before Floyd kicked himself out of the vehicle, that claim becomes harder for a jury to accept beyond a reasonable doubt.
Even CNN had an article on why 7 shots aren’t excessive. Police officers are trained to discharge their firearms reflexively to disable someone. Blake had already resisted arrest by two officers and shook off a tazer. He said he was getting a knife. How many shots are acceptable to disable a man who was at the residence of a woman he raped and had a restraining order against him, fights off two cops, a tazer, and then says he’s getting a knife while you hold a gun inches from him? The point there was to kill/disable Blake. Not consider his life when he was in the act of a 4th 1st degree felony in minutes.
1. I don't assume anything. They killed Lloyd and that is also a fact. Even if he hadn't died it's still misuse of force. Something I am arguing and I feel is getting bogged down in who died or didn't is getting away from that.
2. I could care less what CNN said, like really lol. Seven shots in the back is excessive. Especially when multiple cops are on scene and in grabbing distance. Any denial of that I'm just gonna ignore.
3.Again the issue I'm debating is corruption and misuse of powers.
4. I find I'm always answering you, but you never answer my questions. I find that odd.
5. I have no doubt the cops in the Lloyd case will walk. More corruption in my eyes.
6. And again, they seem to manage in other countries.
#278 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
Let me get this straight. You want me to believe people who think it's ok to strangle a man to death with their knees and shoot men in the back seven times, seriously?
Noone caused this only the corrupt police themselves, and until the good cops start addressing it they will continue to get away with it.
Here is another example. We know there is a lot of corruption in the force. How many cops report other cops yearly? I bet that is a fun statistic.
#279 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
If you're arguing cops are killing people in cold blood and covering it up somehow, that warrants something more than faith.
I'm not arguing that. That is actually a fact cops do kill people in cold blood.
Where the hell have you all been living. XD
To deny it requires more than faith imo.
#280 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 314 weeks ago
No I don't trust it because a lot of those numbers come from police statements in their incident reports. Police have done and continue to write false reports, lie etc.
For instance Lloyd would have been just another statistic without the video footage from a member of the public. I don't believe Lloyd was an isolated case, far from it.
Why would I trust any organisation with so much corruption?
Who said it was true in previous years? I sure as hell don't believe that for a second.
Cops falsify reports, that is a fact. These statistics are heavily influenced by those reports.
You don't see the issue?
