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#2821 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff Book » 787 weeks ago
Duff tries to play it diplomatic but I can't say that I buy it all that much. He doesn't sound resentfull but Axls name is put in the middle of most problems.
i kinda always got this impression from duff & have been expecting more insight into axl's behaviour in this manner opposed to slashs' more sensational outbursts
disappointed (tho again not unexpected) it isn't a GnR book. duff has been trying to put his time in GnR in it's place & move on & he has been more successful than the others in that regard. but unless his private life is extremely interesting the only people buying the book will be GnR fans..
#2822 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 787 weeks ago
well i'm glad they admit they do disrespect their fans
it's a very, very, very small step in the right direction
but i doubt anything more will come of it. small step forward two steps back tends to be the way.
#2823 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Great Interview with Slash on UYI I and II » 787 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:"Don't damn me
When I speak a piece of my mind
'Cause silence isn't golden
When I'm holding it inside
'Cause I've been where I have been
An I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper
'Cause it's all a part of me"Damn that's cornball...
It's redneck deep, but it's still deep. Hair metal is the rock n roll version of Rhianna.
nah, that stanza is the kinda crap fred durst woulda spewed.
DDM is a weird one, Axlin is ot$ when he says it's a mixed bag - like he what he quotes is amongst the worst things axl has committed to tape but paradoxically it also has some brilliant lyrics & an amazing delivery & of course possibly the best GnR solo outside of Nightrain
it really typifies the brutal honesty at the core of axl's work - some of it veers perilously close to cheese but mostly it's shockingly accurate
Trash collected by the eyes/ & dumped into the brain/Said it tears into our conscious thoughts
#2824 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rosario, Argentina - Salon Metropolitano (October 10, 2011) » 787 weeks ago
I'll be happy if they show up and have a decent crowd there.
lol
even those are unrealistic expectations
i half expect ali or naltav to come on & castigate you for expecting a "decent crowd" when we all know the eventual poor attendance in the states is basically down to modern technology! 
#2825 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rosario, Argentina - Salon Metropolitano (October 10, 2011) » 787 weeks ago
Just off the top of my head.
New songs for each tour:
2002: Oh My God, Rhiad, Madagascar, The Blues, Think About You, CD, Silkworms
2006: Better, TWAT, IRS, Down On The Farm, Nice Boys
2010: Sorry, Shackler, This I Love, Prostitute, Scraped, If The World, Estranged, Don't Cry
Maybe not Bob Dylan but more variation than some bands and I'd guess above average in general.
i think you're being a little generous with the truth there
how often did/have we hear/d OMG/Rhiad/Silkworms? did DOTF ever get aired or just appear in the setlist? TAY/TWAT/IRS have all been dropped, same with ITW i believe. take those four songs alone & recycle them with others in the setlist & a whole lot of complaints about the set would be forgotten - which really brings me to my point: how easy it would be for them, & how beneficial it would be to everyone, for them to change the setlist by three r four songs per night.
now what i don't get is the comparison to bob dylan & other bands. i know what you're trying to say but i just think it's irrelevant.
i believe GnR shouldn't be compared to what other bands do or have done. i think GnR should be calling their own tune - which is what they're actually doing, the problem is it's a boring one - & blaze their own trail, they should be making up their own rules & presenting their own live show without any influence from outsiders.
people were saying they were surprised @ the audiences reaction when Estranged dropped & about how that song has survived & flourished through the fanbase. well i wasn't surprised & i think GnR have another ten or so songs capable of having the same "holy shit!" moments @ GnR gigs. i have faith in the back catalogue & i know that people going to the shows would love to hear the likes of TAY/RNDTH/Civil War/Breakdown/Perfect Crime/DTJ. but it seems like Axl doesn't have that faith or he just doesn't care that much about what he is presenting to the fans.
Naltav said: "If 2006 is the last time you saw them, you'll most likely get plenty of songs you haven't seen live yet."
i say, even if 1986 is the last time you saw them, you'll most likely get plenty of songs you've seen live already.
we should be going into a GnR show completely unprepared for what's going to happen - Axl & the band shouldn't be the one's unprepared. obv we're gonna get SCOM/NR but there are 30 songs of GnR's own making they could play around the hits & that's where the unpredictability & spontaneity would come into it. they're meant to be a versatile rock n roll band not a bunch of overrehearsed showponies trotting out the same 18tracks per night in the same order.
there is so much scope for improving the live show but the band & captain don't seem to give a shit. get paid.
#2826 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rosario, Argentina - Salon Metropolitano (October 10, 2011) » 787 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:John gets it.
I went to two back to back shows in 2006 and got identical setlists. As cool as the shows were, the lack of song changes really irriatated me, because it was lazy.
They didn't even have to do anything special, but maybe swap out CD on one show for Madagascar or Out Ta Get Me for Rocket Queen. Something like that.
Instead they did the exact same show. Had absolutely nothing to do with modern technology. It was a bummer to see IDENTICAL shows, that to this day because of identical setlists, I could not tell performances of the songs apart if someone had a loaded shotgun pointed at my nutsack.
I don't agree that it's because they're lazy.
It's more about giving the majority what they come for and throwing in some "new" songs for us diehards. And even giving into fans that have been screaming for Estranged for many years now!
it shouldn't be about either of those things, & they shouldn't have to 'give into fans' over Estranged
they should be going out to give the absolute best & fullest representation of GnR they can give night in night out - that dictates what songs are played. these setlists suck more life out of the dying rock n roll machine having been pre-determined 6/12months in advance. there is no spark or suggestion of spontaneity which are crucial in great rock concerts/performances when the setlists are as staid as they currently are. there's a bigger responsibility than just giving the majority what they paid for or playing songs for the diehards, it's to the prestige & credibility of the organisation & that is being damaged by the half-hearted setlists & lack of prep for any alternatives.
#2827 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rosario, Argentina - Salon Metropolitano (October 10, 2011) » 787 weeks ago
i'm pretty sure i remember an old Axl interview where he mentions the setlists & says about not wanting to play the same songs for the exact reason i stated - that fans come to more than one show.
i might've just dreamed that tho..
#2828 Re: Guns N' Roses » On Ron as 3rd guitarist (2006) » 787 weeks ago
Well if you had a 2 guitar line up it would really make most sense to have DJ and Ron.
Richard has kickass chops and is rock solid on rhythm...so it's nothing personal....this is just a hypothetical.
But if you had DJ and Ron what could happen is they share solos..with Ron doing most but DJ getting some of the blusier ones and the robin parts from chinese. When each plays a solo the other does the rhythm.
This keeps the most technical player (Ron) in the band ensuring that ANYTHING is possible and it also keeps DJ in the band ensuring a fertile future in the creative writing department should Axl decide to go that way.
if axl get's his finger out, that is merely speculation @ this point
this idea of his songwriting being his strongest suit for being the reason DJ remains in the band is weak
Axl hasn't released or produced a new song since CD & we all know how inconsistent his creativity & writing were during that process. what evidence is there to suggest DJ is going to unlock the vault & that Axl even has the desire or anything to say?
no, DJ as a writing force just isn't going to cut it
as for his solo's again i go back to the vs. Finck debate. he's there not as a "shredder" a la Bucket & Bumble & not as rhythm a la Izzy/Gilby or even 4tus. he's there for a bit of colour & extra flavour like Finck, there to process the solo's with his own 'feel' (as long as it's not too far off the original). but he doesn't have the personality of Finck or expressiveness. in effect he's a retread & a dilution of what went before. & really Ron, Nightrain aside, nails every solo & song he's asked to whereas DJ more often than not skewers his solo's & can't compete either technically or soulfully with Slash
(in actual fact when Finck left it was the moment to get Slash in but obv that was never gonna happen so the 2 guitarists was the way to head.)
why you drop DJ & keep 4tus is because Ron can take all of DJ's solo's (& more than likely improve upon them) & you can't really relegate DJ or Ron to the rhythm section if they're the only two guitarists in the band.
like Axlin said 4tus shoulda just been handed a little more responsibility when Finck left (tho still they need to take Maddy from him) he coulda added whatever DJ is supposed to add
tho in his defence DJ does make a spectacle of himself moreso than the other members of the band
#2829 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rosario, Argentina - Salon Metropolitano (October 10, 2011) » 787 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:Setlist
*yawn*
The setlist complaints are basicly a result of modern technology.
If GNR rolled through your town and played that setlist with you NOT following every gig prior to your town, I'm betting you would be a happy camper...
no offense but that is absolute bullshit
plenty of people will go to more than 1 show on a tour, & has been the case since the 60's. plenty of people'll experience the one show despite having tix for different nights, in thqt regard it's a lack of respect for the fanbase
& you don't have to follow every gig to know it's a lazy setlist. you barely have to have been following GnR the past 20/5 yrs to know it's lame that Brownstone/KOHD are still around.
#2830 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rosario, Argentina - Salon Metropolitano (October 10, 2011) » 787 weeks ago
usually i'm the guy poo-pooing the setlist but fuck that looks like an awesome show perfect sized crowd the hand looks huge looks like it was an intense show

