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#2851 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fy2zjfh … _embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16GCwEuA … _embedded#!
I dont know if this has been posted but here are a couple of videos of the rehearsal, they intended to play Oh My God, maybe because of the rain they didnt.
cool hope they do add OMG to the set on a constant basis (for this leg of touring at least - when i can't go to the gigs lol!)
good lyrics
#2852 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
johndivney wrote:Naltav wrote:If a bad rock show gets you THIS riled up, I really hate to think of what happens to you when some really important shit in your lives really hits the fan!
there is very little that is more important than sitting up til 3 or 4 am discussing another GnR 'failure'
i can't believe you missed it!!
roll on the US tour. hope Axl brings the ruckus and/or meltdowns.
I wasn't sitting up in late morning hours, it aired in the afternoon here in Australia. And we're on a Guns N' Roses forum discussing our favourite fucking band - Guns N' Roses.
So no need to get all high and mighty about it, like it's below you to be bummed out about our favourite band having a bad gig. If you have that attitude, why come on this board at all?
i was being sincere! 
it's not below me. i was @ dublin mate & had a shit night. but that's just part & parcel of it - i go see a lot of bands multiple times & every so often i have a bum night at one of their concerts. & i like to dissect what went wrong & right. only with Axl/GnR there's a whole other drama unfolding to. i am genuinely a fanboy caught up in the storylines of the soap opera. & it is important to me when shit like RiR happens. it is funny & entertaining stuff to follow.
it's maybe not as rewarding as it could be, but that's probably one of the reasons it's so enchanting! like living in the hope someday we'll have a resolution - but what's happening is really the only reality we'll ever know, it's a nice illusion to dream for..
edit: & i didn't even stay up to watch the gig - or get up early enough
i did stay up reading this board & people's reactions for a while during a bout of insomnia the night after the gig. i was being sincere.
#2853 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
I personally wish they'd focus on studio stuff. Axl could still give so much as a songwriter - even in the instrumentals ala This I Love - and studio wise they could re-take parts where his voice didn't co-operate. I can only hope that this tour is being used to fund new material.
nah mate, the GnR circus is still an entertaining freak show to follow - & passionately (for all the suffering endured)
we'll only ever hear a very very small percentage of studio recordings. even in the eventual posthumous boxsets we'll only ever scratch the surface of what Axl Rose wanted to achieve & what his vision of GnR was.
live it's meant to be a sham, a slick production (reliant on a small batch of songs & variables) but truthfully & thankfully it rarely achieves that consistency. the live show is almost always a naked, true & immediate representation of the beast, again for better & worse.
#2854 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
If a bad rock show gets you THIS riled up, I really hate to think of what happens to you when some really important shit in your lives really hits the fan!
there is very little that is more important than sitting up til 3 or 4 am discussing another GnR 'failure'
i can't believe you missed it!!
roll on the US tour. hope Axl brings the ruckus and/or meltdowns.
#2855 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
if the rain comes they run & hide their heads. they might as well be dead.
#2856 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
johndivney wrote:Ali wrote:It is meaningless, though. Axl said during the 01/01/01 HOB show something about how he never showed up for rehearsals with the band. So, that was not the variable last night. It just wasn't. Axl had an off night, period.
Ali
it isn't meaningless given it's indicative of the general malaise that has spoiled the band since 93
& the fact is, Axl's lack of preparation is a variable each night.
i believe he had at least one rehearsal before HOB 01 & he rehearsed & soundchecked a couple times since 06 but like Bono, or anyone sensible, says practice (& familiarity) make an incredible difference in how you perform your job. i agree he had an off night, i've said as much ten pages ago, but you minimise the chances of an off night thru practice. you think the world's best chef doesn't cook a meal for over a yr is gonna make a masterpiece with their first attempt?! an athlete sits out a season, does train then expects to be a champion first game back?
i dunno what gig you watched but Axl's lack of prep (& professionalism) was p obv to me.It isn't a post-'93 occurrence, though. That is what Axl himself said at the first new GN'R gig, ever. He doesn't rehearse with the band, never has. The issue may be his individual preparation if anything, not the prep with the band. The lack of that type of preparation has been a constant throughout GN'R's history so it cannot be a variable in this case.
As you yourself said, preparation can help minimize the chances of an off night, but it does not ever completely eliminate the chance of an off night.
Frankly speaking, it's impossible to know what Axl did or didn't do, and to what extent, to prepare without him telling us or us being there.
Ali
just because Ron posted vids of rehearsals doesn't mean those rehearsals were successful (god knows BBF does post a lotta gash online & figure into it the sour end result of the little experiment had on morale)
it's been a constant variable thruout the history which is precisely why it's likely to be relevant here. it's just history repeating itself. there have been as many bad gigs as there have been perfect gigs, prob more..
the guy can't sing his own songs w/o a lyric sheet in front of him! you could maybe excuse him if he'd been busy doing other GnR-related endeavors but it's really just his laziness. he does what he wants & to hell w/the consequences cause he still gets paid & it's only the diminishing fanbase who suffer.
it's both it's meant to be a team game. Axl excused himself from the junkies & party lifestyle of the old guys, what's keeping him distant from these old guys? tommy's smelly feet? no, Axl's laziness. if they functioned as a team & a BAND maybe we wouldn't have to wait 18 yrs to get the setlist changed by a song - this is how it's not meaningless Axl's prep (lackthereof) influences everything about the band. he sets the tone. & it's a lousy one.
#2857 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
johndivney wrote:Ali wrote:Yeah, not seeing each other in a year is meaningless. These are grown men with their own lives and Axl has never been one to rehearse with the band, for better or for worse.
Ali
it's not unusual but it's also definitely not meaningless - it reconfirms all the bad news we've heard or assumed about this band. the only direction they're heading is towards easy money - but when you're as lazy as Axl then nothing comes easily.
again to stress the point it's 4 yrs since CD & the most we have to go on about new material was Tommy's admission & guesses from an interview/twitter a few weeks back.
it's evidence there is zero desire to move this band forward, that there's zero desire to try.edit - & we all know how well it's work post-AFD the band being separated by such distances..
It is meaningless, though. Axl said during the 01/01/01 HOB show something about how he never showed up for rehearsals with the band. So, that was not the variable last night. It just wasn't. Axl had an off night, period.
Ali
it isn't meaningless given it's indicative of the general malaise that has spoiled the band since 93
& the fact is, Axl's lack of preparation is a variable each night.
i believe he had at least one rehearsal before HOB 01 & he rehearsed & soundchecked a couple times since 06 but like Bono, or anyone sensible, says practice (& familiarity) make an incredible difference in how you perform your job. i agree he had an off night, i've said as much ten pages ago, but you minimise the chances of an off night thru practice. you think the world's best chef doesn't cook a meal for over a yr is gonna make a masterpiece with their first attempt?! an athlete sits out a season, doesn't train then expects to be a champion first game back?
i dunno what gig you watched but Axl's lack of prep (& professionalism) was p obv to me. & something thats really been obv most of Axl's career...
#2858 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
some of GnR's best shows have been in heavy rain
shouldn't have been a factor for Axl - maybe a band full of session musicians but they coped ok (while being denied the ability to run energetically across the stage as 4tus & $lashba do)
overall i agree w/neemo on the quality of the show but there are real issues that raised their ugly heads again thati'm still trying to reconcile
#2859 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Live From Rock In Rio » 788 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Well, most bands are like that to be honest. Once they make it they rarely see each other and hardly ever hang out. From the interviews bands point to that as a reason they're able to keep a band together. So, I disagree there. It's not that unusual. Even for Guns after AFD, they didn't see each other for long stretches.
Axl hasn't changed his habits since 91. Maybe it's time he at least tweaked them. And maybe try singing the old songs in a different range like Elton John does.
Yeah, not seeing each other in a year is meaningless. These are grown men with their own lives and Axl has never been one to rehearse with the band, for better or for worse.
Ali
it's not unusual but it's also definitely not meaningless - it reconfirms all the bad news we've heard or assumed about this band. the only direction they're heading is towards easy money - but when you're as lazy as Axl then nothing comes easily.
again to stress the point it's 4 yrs since CD & the most we have to go on about new material was Tommy's admission & guesses from an interview/twitter a few weeks back.
it's evidence there is zero desire to move this band forward, that there's zero desire to try.
edit - & we all know how well it's work post-AFD the band being separated by such distances..
#2860 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Nominated for Hall of Fame » 788 weeks ago
Axl should do the acceptance speech (which could be all kinds of awesome) then the current band do Estranged & SCoM.
sorted.
