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#2921 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 793 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

Whens he finishing up, or has he already? Wonder when they will all get together for rehearsals.

yea. they haven't had enough practice playing the same 17 songs for the past 2 years..

#2922 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 793 weeks ago

there are so many 'could-be' & 'should do' great idea's floating around GnR, not just in relation to them touring the US.. but in the end, it's the same old trip.. the spontaneity & spark has long been replaced by a half-assed attempt at professionalism & compromising on everything & achieving next to nothing except a paycheck.


people were excited to hear new songs last time 'cause the myth still existed & people wanted to believe in Axl & a Bucketheaded Guns. now the new songs (asif) will be played by robots who haven't written a note for the band.


there is no hope.

#2923 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 793 weeks ago

yea looks good

hopefully a US tour brings a new release there-or-thereabouts & then another world tour on the back of that! roll

#2924 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 794 weeks ago

mate if there's nothing new when Guns hit the US i wouldn't stress it if i were you. they were superb when i saw them on the euro tour last year, but not that good that you get sad @ the thought of missing them, cause really there isn't anything new. or that you can't get a flavour of youtube. & you won't be missing a show that's full of rabid fans to heighten the intensity like you would in SA.

#2925 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Tommy Stinson Thread » 794 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

Westerberg says, "I write stuff, but I haven't written much lately. I played a little saxophone last year, more or less just for something else to do. I wouldn't say I'm working on a record. I have enough stuff to release one tomorrow, but why bother? In this day and age, my thought is to make a song everyday and erase it as a sort of Dadaist protest."

Tommy sure has a way for picking pain in the ass singers. big_smile

in fairness paulie has released quite a lot of material the last decade, including soundtracks.

in fact 49:00 i think is one of the best albums ever, not just one of westerbergs greatest works either solo or with the mats.

folker is also one of the best releases of the decade imo & his two grandpaboy albums are fucking stellar.

but that doesn't mean he isn't a pain in the ass!:peace:

#2926 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago

faldor wrote:
Olorin wrote:

Do you think that frame of mind spills over to his music? Lets face it, when Axl is mentioned anywhere online or in the press its mostly in a negative context. Is it possible he see's all this and just thinks, "pffft fuck it, whats the point?"

I agree.  For every fan that's excited at the prospect of another GNR album, there's 10 people saying they could either care less or that it's 4 years overdue.  Plus, add in the nightmare it was to release CD, and the fact that that record sales are basically non-existent these days.  What is the motivation?

People, for the most part, have been against Axl Rose for the past 15 years in one way or another.  In a way, it's a wonder we've gotten as much out of him as we have.  He could've easily packed up his stuff and said, "I don't need this shit!"

I can only guess that in the end the reason he's still going at it is for love and money, and there's enough there for him to keep at it, as little as it may be.  I do wonder though, if he felt the world showed him more love instead of hate if his mood would have changed and we would've reaped the benefits.

And before anybody jumps on me, I'm not saying we should feel sorry for Axl.  I know he brought on A LOT of this stuff himself.  I'm just saying, like a lot of people, he seems quite sensitive.  And when things aren't going his way, the motivation probably isn't at an all time high.

I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore

No I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought back in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore


in his lyrics he says he's still determined
that he doesn't give a flying toss what the haters say

but his actions speak differently

monkeychow wrote:

All that matters is the music left behind in the end.

in 100 years when we're all dead & gone (presumably)
but in the here & now it's a stream of shit we have to swim thru trying to get to the music. i dunno what it's like for you but if i try & enjoy GnR or discuss why i love their music there's always a few people ready to laugh & rip the piss due to the embarrassment they've become. not that i actually give a shit, it's their loss, the point is that it's there & it's hard work. whereas if things were even a little improved it would make a hell of a lot of difference.

#2927 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago

2 good posts back-to-back there from axlin & ali...

#2928 Re: Guns N' Roses » The 3rd Chinese (How Are You Grenade) Has Surfaced! (FAKE?) » 794 weeks ago

"I don't think anything Tommy said after the album's release is bullshit."

- ok, fair enough. i should have been more specific in what i said. it's just from my recollection he seemed to point the finger of blame @ RTB & the label while ignoring the failings of his bandleader (& his & his bandmates role in not standing up to axl's whims). but i see he was asked specifically about RTB.


but yes that Ezrin thing is absolutely shocking & dispiriting.
i mean wtf. wtf is axl rose phoning ezrin for anyway? i bet he wasn't called in when they made AFD. axl's confidence is seemingly so fucking fragile. this is the guy who wrote SCOM & Estranged ffs! why does he think he needs the input of outsiders? the punk rock ethos of GnR has never been apparent in their recording techniques which is a damn shame.

#2929 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago

ok. but they certainly weren't done besmirching the legacy. the years that have followed UYI's completion have indelibly tarnished the reputation & legacy.

they weren't done really since they tried, all four of them, to write more GnR material & then the lawsuits & bickering & nastiness & wastefulness.. 

if they hadn't tried & hadn't crumbled into the bitterness then the rancour wouldn't have poisoned the well..

#2930 Re: The Garden » West Memphis three to be released » 794 weeks ago

sandman wrote:

I read alot of case docs a few years back and read lots of opinions. I have always been close to 50-50, but leaning slighty towards them being guilty. 

You guys present great info and i am still probably 55-45 leaning towards guilty.

One thing that i've been wondering....did miskelley mention the boys being tied with rope on his own??? Because this point is always used by wm3 supporters as evidence that he was lying. But i feel that if he knew they were tied up at all, that would be  evidence that he was telling the truth. That is a very specific detail that you wouldnt expect anyone to guess. Even if he got the "tool" wrong (which a semi-slow person might do a few weeks later), to me, knowing that fact (that they were tied up) is huge.

Anyway, i dont understand how or why anyone with any kind of intelligence could be absolutely convinced of their innocence. There are some doubts, even if u call them minor doubts, that they r innocent. Their innocence just is not proven. It is far from a fact. And with that in mind, how can people support them and help with the release of individuals that MAY be guilty.

Part of me is just thinking "holy shit. Murderers may have just been set free." And if i had a hand in that (financially, for example), i would be feeling sick right now.

how come you don't think, "holy shit it's possible innocent people have been in jail for 18 years & had their childhood stolen from them" if you're only 50/55% believing they're guilty?? how can people support the incarceration of individuals that MAY be innocent??

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