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#2941 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago
My theory is that it's a lot harder to be Axl than people who do not have Axl's personalty realise.
Every time someone gets shat off with Axl is because they want Axl to do something, and they have assumed that he is actually able to do those things.
Bottom line for me is that I'm not so sure that is the case.
I'm not saying the guy is a saint, I'm saying he's a guy who does what he can. Sure he maybe makes some of his own problems. But you can only work with the mind you are born with. Axl's mind is angry or whatever but it also writes amazing music.
i disagree with the bolded part especially. he doesn't do all that he can. he's a lazy fat fucker.
now i know he gets a pass for his wrecked head but that only excuses so much.
he was able to change into an ego-maniac diva once GnR got big, why isn't he able to chance into a more humble person?
it seems like his god/jesus complex is just outta control, in relation to his former (& current??) bandmates/business dealings & his fans.
#2942 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago
But even so, I feel this is a bit like being 17 and whine that your rock n' roll hero doesn't love you enough or something. I care as little about Axl than what he cares about his fans, and interpret that any way you like. GNR and Axl is justa a rock band, an album here, an album in 10 years. It's what it is. People spending emotional time being upset over Axl's relationship to his so called "fan-base" should get another hobby.
you don't get it, or care enough. & frankly i'm a little insulted. my whole life is dedicated to my hobbies - i'm a culture junkie.
you think there's enough in the 3 (or 4 or maybe 5) GnR albums to sustain an obsession? no that's not what my complaints are.
it's not "just a rock band". without music, life would be an error. it's a means of survival. it's a power source & i need that energy & for me, what exists in the GnR catalogue is as value i thrive upon more than almost anything except my family.
& i think to a certain extent axl shares a similar belief in that power - i see this thru his obsession with 70's rock, as that other great philosophiser said "everyone knows rock achieved perfection in 1974". my complaint is he has this device that he refuses to share & refuses to share with people who actually care.
#2943 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR nearly killed Duff! Excerpt from his autobiography » 794 weeks ago
there's a neat little interview & article on duff & his financial interests in todays the sunday times. the interview is in the 'money' section, the article (relating to his interview) is in the main part of the paper.
unfortunately the sunday times online you have to pay for so i can't copy & paste.
one interesting thing he does say re: Guns is that he still clears 7 figures in royalty payments every year.
aside from that it's mainly about his investments & financial background.
#2944 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago
drunk?
lol i wasn't actually @ the time i posted earlir, a little stoned..
you know some people got no choice
& they can never even find a voice
to talk with that they can even call their own
so the first thing they see
that allows them the right to be
why, they follow it
you know it's called bad luck
#2945 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago
My question is; why follow a band you have such obvious disdain for? So Axl Rose doesn't give a shit about his fans eh? If that's your firm belief then I'd say it's time to stop being a fan?
i'm a fucking glutton for punishment, ok?!
@ this point in time i can't imagine giving another cent to line the pockets of slash/axl/steven/dj ashba (lol @ even including ashba in that group by the way)
that's not to say in the future the relationship can't be mended. like an idiot i do live in hope for a better day...
my real problem tho is the wasted potential. imo it's such a fuckin tragedy. i believe in GnR & in Axl's writing & performing. it hurts to see the waste that's going on 'cause i know from the songs & memories that have already happened there is a magic there that doesn't exist anywhere else. & there could be so much more of it if the people involved would get their shit together - or care a little more about something bigger than themselves.
#2946 Guns N' Roses » Axl doesn't give a shit about his fans » 794 weeks ago
- johndivney
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no communication
no releases
never mind late starts/riots/cancelled shows/general shitty behaviour/disorganisation of the brand people care about
when i think of how easy it is for other bands - like PJ for instance with their Ten Members fan club - i can't help but think axl both takes his fanbase for granted & couldn't really give a shit about them.
in this day & age especially it's not that hard to communicate with the fans (& not have to deal with journalists). but then maybe axl's temper issues make this a complicated issue (as the tweet of the cancelled euro tour last year shows).
but there's no reason why he can't commission del or fernando to tweet a simple message giving the fans updates on the status of the band or what they're working on.
(tho the silence obv means they/he isn't working on anything GnR related)
i know he's wary about making promises he can't keep or building unrealistic expectations. but in regressing so far into this behaviour he is alienating & isolating himself from his fans thru his determination not to communicate anything GnR related.
like, godforbid he should throw us a bone & put up some footage/video's on youtube.
i guess my real question is, and always will be, why did he fight so hard to keep the name if he's gonna do nothing with it except keep it all to himself? it's like he doesn't want GnR but he doesn't want anyone else to have it either..
#2947 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Tommy Stinson Thread » 794 weeks ago
i think mikka has a point - axl's relationship with the buying public & one-time gnr fans did cost them a LOT of sales
i think you could tack on @ least another mil in sales if there had been a bit more goodwill & communication shown towards those interested. instead it seemed like axl took the interest of people as an unwelcome burden & went out of his way to distance himself from would-be fans.
#2948 Re: Guns N' Roses » The 3rd Chinese (How Are You Grenade) Has Surfaced! (FAKE?) » 794 weeks ago
i've been wondering that ^ myself recently
Thats exactly why tomorow wont be any different than yesterday.
Guns N'Roses have been shambolic and unproductive ever since TSI came out, its not going to change now or tomorrow, its just the way it is. Mabye at some point in the next few years the rest of the CD sessions will come out, I believe it will, reading Chinese Whispers the other day and even back then Axl was talking about the follow up being more experimental and electronic than the first release - just like he was saying in 2008. It'll come out one day and then that will be it imo, Axl just doesnt seem to have any interest or passion anymore, he's happy hanging out doing whatever he does away from the public eye.
In a nutshell, would it be fair to say Axl Rose took semi retirement after the Illusions tour and anything else he's ever done since then should just be looked on as a bonus?
i agree w/what you are saying
my beef however is the lies & bs we've been fed by axl & tommy regarding why CD took so long to come out.
you'll remember they did an interview with Billboard upon CD's release & p much blamed the label & roy thomas baker for why the album took so long to be released. but axl's behaviour & silence since then has shown that a serious proportion of the blame for the clusterfuck & the intractable situation we've been living thru.. why can he not just be honest & give us some information instead of just letting things drift along aimlessly?! he seems incapable of making any kind of decision..
#2949 Re: The Garden » West Memphis three to be released » 794 weeks ago
& eddie vedder is frantically searching for a new cause to preach about..
#2950 Re: Guns N' Roses » The 3rd Chinese (How Are You Grenade) Has Surfaced! (FAKE?) » 794 weeks ago
i think it's fucking shite that it's 4 years since this clusterfuck actually got a release & all we have to talk about is the crappy artwork that never even got released
it's so fucked up
release something new so we don't have to bother with this bullshit anymore. christ almighty why is it so fucking difficult?! *SCREAMS @ COMP*
