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#2971 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 797 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

I see your point, but considering Axl took over a decade and a half off... we're owed (yep I said it) many albums for years.

What's the point in following Axl Rose solo, if he's not gonna put out material?

This isn't like a reunited Eagles getting together 25 years later and recording ONE new album, and touring the hits. If Axl had the real band with him, I wouldn't give him near the amount of hell for being a nostalgia act. I just don't like all of us, band included, sitting around pulling each others dicks (which GNR's Twitter seems to do on a daily basis)

i agree.
axl has had his chance to prove he has a valid band & ground to call the band GnR but his lack of activity has, for me finally, condemned him to be 'the bad guy' or the one who really did ruin it.

i know i know faldor etc will excuse axl due to his problems & that we're lucky to have gotten anything
but we're not. it's axl's fault. he got what he wanted (control of the band) & has proceeded to do fuck all with it, except tarnish it's legacy & release one mess of an album. in nearly 20years i might add. how much material have slash & duff & izzy produced in that time?

it's completely unfair to the fans, axl's behaviour. to subject us to the idea that Dj Ashba or even Bumble are GnR guitarists is egregious & for me one of the final straws that broke the camels back. the hypocrisy alone is enough to drive me furious. they parade around the internets promoting their own wares & talking like well whipped slaves @ any mention of GnR (tho in fairness to Bumble he has dissented somewhat last year) all the while amassing a ton of followers & cash for contributing nothing or very little to the legacy of what should be the greatest rock band since zeppelin.

it's really sad & outrageous what he & they have done & continue to perpetrate.

now GnR albums always took a long fucking time to come out. but since CD was finally dropped there has been very very little evidence that axl/GnR care about releasing or creating new material.
that is absolutely inexcusable.
if axl doesn't want to do this shit he should just pack it in, cause it is UNFAIR of him to come out of his cocoon every 4 or 5 years & play AFD-heavy setlists.
i mean i love it when axl gets out there & makes a scene, he is an absolutely amazing rock star & there's really no excuse apart from his cowardice to put his music out there. this goes all the way back to the bad old days even before the HOB/RiR shows where he debuted new material & the fear he had about being judged.


he has created an utter mess out of what was the best hard rock band maybe of all time. & he has contributed what, 14 songs since Slash & Duff left. for all the energy, never mind money, his fans have spent on him it's just not a good enough return ESPECIALLY when the excuses are so well-worn & flimsy.

#2972 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash: I like to play Roses tunes » 797 weeks ago

IRS is great
Prostitute is one of the best GnR songs from any era

madgas quoted the night they drove old dixie down
weirdly i've had that line, esp they should never have taken the very best, in my head the last 3 or 4 days.. maybe it was some pre-cognitive thing waiting on this thread.. be disappointing if this shit is all i have waiting on me tho..

muse suck
lol@slither mash-up > ITW original & @ the Beautiful Dangerous remix BS. mad people.

GnR stopped being fuckin GnR the day Izzy packed up his songs & headed to the beach.
the influences & styles on CD are so varied & heart-stoppingly exciting - & not just where Axl's Elton-obession & lyrics are concerned - that i still discover cool new things to explore whenever i put CD on (which isn't often anymore)

i think CD title track is the weakest album opener of all GnR's proper albums... but even then it's still a p mindblowing hard rock tune.

i know it's been used a lot but it really is frankly brilliant the personalities & ideas/ideologies that come thru on CD, even if it is awash with Axl's demented paranoia. to quote Bumble/Axl & whoever else dared talk about CD's successes, but really an album containing two frightening dexterous guitarists (BH & Bumble) & the hodge-podge of talented accomplices (chiefly Brain & Pitman - Tommy's relative absence is a sad note, of course) make it a much more fascinating & progressive hard rock album that there's been since probably UYI2!

no joke, CD is a landmark hard rock album in much the same way UYI2 was. there hasn't been anything in the intervening years, or since CD was released, that comes close to the zealous mania on show in CD.

#2973 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 797 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

Oh I agree that it should be reported on. And I'll be the first one scrounging for set lists and tid bits to post here in the interest of keeping the site up to date. But I'm just saying I really don't care about them playing a bunch of shows elsewhere that are liking shooting fish in a barrel for them. I don't take it as a "good sign" or "moving forward" it just seems like business as usual to me and I'm bored of it.

you say that now but wait til they drop 4 or 5 NEW songs @ RiR and blow your freakin mind!

#2974 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash: I like to play Roses tunes » 797 weeks ago

Mikkamakka wrote:

BTW Slash as a songwriter shown more diversity than Axl. This I Love, CITR and SoD vs. Obsession, Slither and Beautiful Dangerous etc. Nuff said.

that's balls mate
yea axl loves his balladry but CD is streets ahead in ambition/imagination in songwriting terms than anything any of the other guys have done. compare Better (in any of it's guises) to Slither & it's ridiculous. diversity? the problem with CD is that it has too much scope, every song tries to be a pocket symphony.
CD is so far removed from Contraband & Libertad most notably that i'm amazed to see people say what you've said.
Slash, until the Slash album, was stuck in a the same songwriting rut he'd been in since 5 o'clock - and only one or two times on the Slash album did he do something different and cool.



now on topic, yea props to Slash for playing Civil War when Axl doesn't have the energy or sense to go there. & there are about another twenty stone-cold classics in the catalogue that never get an airing (RNDTH springs to mind straight away)

#2975 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 797 weeks ago

i am interested in seeing a USA tour develop & what becomes of it

but i'd prefer if they continued to skip the USA IF it meant we could get a new album.

tbpfh, i don't think the USA deserves a GnR tour or WANTS a GnR tour under the current conditions..

#2976 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rumored South American dates around RIR » 799 weeks ago

faldor wrote:

It's only a matter of time.

ok. start holding your breath... now!


i'd actually love to see GnR in Mexico City - or in Brasil or Chile. Latin/South America is rock's last outpost. even European rock fans are a dying & mutated breed.

#2977 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 799 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I like The Smiths. There. I said it.

14

i thought u might..

#2978 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 799 weeks ago

u people r crazy
sandals rule
the dude abides, never forget. more of a man than any of u suckers.

obv when you're going to concerts tho they're a no-no
how u gonna survive in the mosh pit w/sandals?
russ' shitty bear complaint @ concerts/festivals is ot$

#2979 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » The Shit List » 799 weeks ago

what was it about them hating small dogs/wanting to kill small dogs when they first arrived in the UK for the london marquee shows in '87
it was just tabloid spin @ the time but p funny nonetheless

#2980 Re: Guns N' Roses » Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement" » 799 weeks ago

& it's not only axl who treats his fans like shit - here morrissey gives a life-time ban from his gigs to a fan who runs a website dedicated to him:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicbl … issey-fans

worse than throwing people out for wearing slash t-shirts? ( wink )

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