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#3021 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 804 weeks ago

i think that too, & it has been alluded to by BBF i his interviews. he said something like the CD-saga was a massive part of Axl's music life & was unsure whether he was ready to close the book on it & move on.
by his behaviour (or lackthereof) it can be assumed Axl isn't ready to move on or @ the least undecided as yet of his best way out of the CD clusterfuck cul de sac.

a boxset is the ideal soln but that won't happen.

& what of the label support? what are they looking from Axl/GnR? if anything?
the sooner RiR & the SA dates & 2011 close prob the better for GnR.

#3022 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 804 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Yeah, fall 2011 can now officially be written off.


Bring on 2012....

it was written off officially two weeks ago:

faldor wrote:

In response to

r_troy Ruslan Krivoshein
@gunsnroses Good day! One question, Are you planning to go to Russia this or next year? Thanks for attention! We Love you guns'n'roses!


gunsnroses Guns N' Roses
@r_troy no plans outside of this fall in Rio

Re: Russ - i got that impression after the last few dates of last yr, when that final leg of the 'world' tour wound up.
but i think things will probably forever tick over @ axl's pace
i'd be pleasantly surprised if anything materialised on the GnR front in 2012 either tbpfh

they do still have material that could eventually be released & opportunities to tour & those chances will prob never vanish as long as axl is still breathing - e.g. they could re-release CD w/the proper artwork n bonus tracks/remix album in the run-up to releasing the next album & then tour it.. but until axl kicks the proverbial bucket (again) there is a light that will never go out!!

#3023 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

The thing is I don't think it would happen that way though.

If you look at the old rocker songs, you see the kickass riffs of Slash/Izzy - and the kickass vocals of Axl - and the sum of the parts elevates it to another level.

When you take Slash or Izzy alone...well personally I still enjoy the shit out of it - I love Snakepit and the Solo album - but I will admit while I feel the riffs and the guitar is just as good as AFD, it looses something having a different lyric writer/vocalist etc.

So my point is..you guys are making the wrong comparision.

Sixx:Am shows what DJ is capiable of *without* Axl's influence. Just as Snakepit/VR and the solo project show what Slash is like without Axl.

Add Axl's song ideas/melodies/pressence and style to the Snakepit1 riffs and you would have had an AFD not Axl singing snakepit songs.

Likewise..it's not like you would get Six:Am performed by Axl...you would get the riffs and cool shit of Sixx:Am but with the added depth of writing Axl brings to stuff.

I don't think Axl's ever going to make a straight ahead radio rock album. But CD does show his songwriting abilities on ballads, and we know he can write rockers when put with a riff master like slash...so that DJ when working alone can produce an album with good riffs and stuff like SixxAm - shows that with Axl's influence it could be pretty cool..

it's 5 o'clock somewhere/ju ju hounds/river/a load of loaded all have material that would be fit for the GnR banner without any tinkering of the music. only add axl's vocals & a ton of those songs would rank as great as anything GnR ever did. not one song on TIGH is worthy of the GnR name. not one iota of one song.

those guys were & are simply far better & more imaginative song writers than ashba has shown.

dj's songs & playing are just like his image: cliched, embarrassing & stuck in a really terrible 1980s sunset strip party.

#3024 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 804 weeks ago

gonna miss sean bean
but ned stark had to die, no way out of his predicament w/o breaking the show. top stuff.

#3025 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

^ metallex i dunno how you can't hear the difference in what BH & Ron & Mother Goose & Axl (& Brain) bring to CD's rockers to p much any other hard rock album this side of SOAD! the idea's & complexity are streets ahead of the plodding pop-rock of Sixx:AM or VR. even the Slash album had more original ideas than TIGH.

(& if you want, compare the quality & ambition of the CD ballads to the lackluster generic ballads that soil the latter half of TIGH for an explicit example of the difference in vision of GnR compared to other modern hard rock bands.)

monkeychow wrote:

I'm going to go out on a limb. But I was messing around on my pc looking at old boots and shit like 5 minutes ago. And I came across that video make of the new band playing an accoustic set somewhere - like a party or something. And they do catcher - in kind of a stripped down acoustic way.
And i've always enjoyed catcher  and i'm not even saying it needed to be stripped down on the album...but just listening to that now...the lyrics....they're just so good. Its big words but I think that song is a work of genius. The words are just amazing, the melodies great. There's something about it. It may not be the best song ever written or anything, but it's the sort of song I hear and I realise that Axl writes things other people just can't. I hear a lot of local bands and all kinds of stuff day to day. And while I hear good shit, it's not every day you hear something like fucking Catcher.

So, don't want to speak for him, but i think what John is getting at is that no one wants to see Axl dilute that Axlness, that magic but turning it into a radio-ready album.

Of course i'm not sure that would happen - I think for the songs to get to a point where Axl would like them there would be his touch on it. So I can see a DJ/Axl colaboration with the best of both worlds - DJs way of making riffs/solos/Drums/instrumentation that are catchy as fuck and sound killer without needing to go the full CD route of 1000 billion tracks per song...and Axl's genius lyrics, melody and personal essance that he seems to put into a song.

So maybe we'd get the good parts of a sixAM album without the limitations of it, and the best sides of Axl's writing without some of the side effects that happened in the CD process.

that is the best CITR

& yea if Axl did get his hands on Ashba material he would twist it away from it's simplistic straight ahead rock.

you're right Axl doesn't need to layer billions of overdubs & different recordings on the songs.
i would LOVE GnR to release an album they recorded live in the studio, of original material.

what i most definitely do not want is this very samey, retrograde dime-a-dozen cock rock. which something that i don't think GnR has really ever been party to across an entire album. sure we've had a handful of those type of songs spread across AFD/UYI's but never have they released an LP as generic as TIGH.

Axlin wrote:

Axl had his experimental jack off album - it was Chinese Democracy.
Now it's time to go back to cock rock, like what made GN'R the legendary band it became.
Sixx:AM is not original, it is straight-forward, radio-ready pop rock.
Which is EXACTLY where Axl needs to be

first of all: having spent so much time in 'experimental jack-off' mode Axl & GnR should have mastered the studio process & the technology they were battling with, WHICH is all the more reason to CONTINUE with this style & approach (tho weed out the faults).
secondly when the fuck did GnR ever pander to radio-friendly pop rock. they never courted the mainstream, the mainstream came to them - a year after they released their debut. SCOM had to be edited, NR is 9mins long, AFD is packed with the scummiest most demented punk rock of the 80s while the UYI's (Izzy's rock n roll songs excepted) are more of the same balanced by grandiose epics.

there are so many styles & influences available to GnR & in the GnR mixture that to release something like TIGH would be probably the most terrible judgement of all.

for me, the best option is to continue with another esoteric hard rock album. i don't want mainstream/casual music fans being a fan of GnR if they cannot get on board with Sorry/Prostitute et al. i don't want the type of person attracted to Sixx:Am to be a GnR fan if they don't accept the 'experimental' obtuse style of GnR. i don't want GnR to be courting those people with weak, wet bog-standard rock songs that are more disposable 3minute adverts than honest songs.

#3026 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
johndivney wrote:

with the exception of a reunion it's the very last place Axl needs to be

compare Prostitute for example to anything on TIGH or the VR albums & it's just mindblowing the difference in imagination & ambition between Axl & his hard rock contemporaries
Axl is on the right track chasing his vision(s) rather than subscribing to the generic norm - & GnR have always been that way. the only issue is the amount of time & procrasting that goes on. if Axl/GnR ever released an album as asinine as TIGH it would spoil the legacy much more than any of the ridickulous behaviour of the last 20yrs.
the only thing worse than GnR releasing a generic cock/pop rock album would be a reunion.

Axl clearly falls behind his peers in hard rock.  He always has.  Axl is known for his ballads.  That's it.  Axl didn't write the rockers.

those ballads have a place in hard rock.

but the point is, & perhaps i should have explained it better, is that GnR's rockers have always had a twisted ambition that separates them from the pussy pop rock of generic bands like motely crue or sixx:am. from OTGM (which is one of Axl's greatest performances) to YCBM to even the CD title track, GnR rockers do not subscribe to the template of 'lazy' generic hard rock & Axl is a driving force behind that difference, he is one of the main reasons for that difference.

#3027 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

with the exception of a reunion it's the very last place Axl needs to be

compare Prostitute for example to anything on TIGH or the VR albums & it's just mindblowing the difference in imagination & ambition between Axl & his hard rock contemporaries
Axl is on the right track chasing his vision(s) rather than subscribing to the generic norm - & GnR have always been that way. the only issue is the amount of time & procrasting that goes on. if Axl/GnR ever released an album as asinine as TIGH it would spoil the legacy much more than any of the ridickulous behaviour of the last 20yrs.
the only thing worse than GnR releasing a generic cock/pop rock album would be a reunion.

#3028 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

don't take it so personal tongue

i'd have hadda listen to sixx:am @ some stage, it just happened to be today & that eva mendes analogy
i'd expect axl to sculpt something a lot more complex, structurally songwise than what i heard on TIGH.

#3029 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

Riad wrote:

Oh come on. You cannot compare Sixx AM and Grinderman under the same genre they may be both considered "Rock" but they are completely different.

I love Nick Cave, but I'm not let down when Bon Jovi's latest album isn't written in the same way.

How could you EVER have expected a Sixx AM album to sound like this ???

Sure they all play the same instruments but it's not the same music

This is the equivalent of me saying  "This I Love is shit because it doesn't sound Like this":

Or saying that your bicycle is shit because it doesn't look like this:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 … PYavYB&t=1


These things are in the same broad category but WORLDS apart.


The best way to analyze it is by whether or not it achieved it's aims.

disagree. we're in 2011 & those jokers r still traipsing out the same old cack while guys 20 yrs old than them are bending & elevating rock music to new places.

speaking of Canon in D, check this:
[youtube]wu7BpThchuc&feature=related[/youtube]

best band

#3030 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA Recalls 'Funny' Bar Fight Involving AXL ROSE - » 804 weeks ago

no idea who that is but that song is better than any on TIGH. @ least u cud dance 2 ^ if u so wished.

i'd quite happily listen to nothing but euro-pop 4 the rest of my life if it meant never having to hear another nikki sixx song.

fwiw, This I Love:
[youtube]sWU-0KiJBHA&feature=related[/youtube]

THAT is how you do a modern rock song.
& that was like only the 3rd or 4th best rock song from last year.

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