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#3081 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy now $1.99 » 810 weeks ago
...but none of those make sense. It was HIS comeback album and not the label's, yet the label did more to promote it than Axl. He fucked it up, cause that's the way he likes it. He can suffer and hate and blame the world.
you can't expect one man to organise & maintain a promotional campaign all by his lonesome. the artist needs the backing of their labels PR/media wing to promote their product.
what it reminds me of is that MJ album Invincible, where the label (sony?) refused to allocate any more money for promo of the album after spending so much on production.
obv there were things axl could have done of his own volition. but it's possible once he saw the label weren't going to fund video's - or care about the booklet - or whatever other promo tools they use, he acted the little kid & sulked.
i think MJ threatened to sue sony at the time, claiming discrimation(!), for lack of support in helping promote the record.
it's common enough for labels to back out when they've already invested far too much. once they got the best buy deal they perhaps figured ok enoughs enough we've broke even but we're not gonna take any more of axl's shit/demands. and axl of course does like to suffer & blame the world so the labels lack of involvement was an excuse axl was waiting for.
#3082 Re: The Garden » Bin Laden dead » 810 weeks ago
looking forward to the movie..
have to say, the image of those goons dressed in hulkamania outfits celebrating outside the white house is a bit unbecoming.
#3083 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy now $1.99 » 810 weeks ago
IF there is a new album & IF Dj (& BBF) is still in the band the record'll get a lot more promo.. even if it's justFB/Twitter crap, every little helps..
as for Axl, faldor that sense of washing his hands of it was prob just one aspect in his reasons for not promoting it. his relationship w/the label - they prob refused a hefty budget to promote the album - & a sourness over the booklet/artwork were other factors. i'm sure axl has plenty of excuses why it all went silent upon release..
#3084 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 810 weeks ago
i nvr bought anything from PSN r nvr put my correct credit card deets in when i first got my PS3 4 or so years ago specifically because i'm always paranoid about hackers. i am lucky to have escaped & i nvr really thought the PS3 would be such a security risk..
if nintendo's next console is powerful enough i won't be buying another sony machine next-gen. their treatment of PS3 consumers has been one mistake after the other culminating in their atrocious handling of this hack.
the thing is, the PS3 had the potential to be an amazing entertainment hub but it's failed to fulfil it's potential & the minute they removed otherOS function was when any residue of goodwill dried upon & the machine turned into a cancer.
#3085 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 810 weeks ago
johndivney wrote:the problem with ron/dj/axl getting flamed is - why don't they just tell the truth? (tho then of course they'd get it for being truthful)
Personally I think they do.
Ron's been very honest in the past that he wants to get together as a complete group and write brand new songs but that it's not happening. It's been obvious from a few interviews he's done that it's quite frustrating. He's also been quite blunt in the past pointing out that it isn't up to him to announce shows/releases , that he's seperate from the business end of it and that he himself finds the uncertanty and waits frustrating. That's more truthful than most people would be.
As for DJ. There is no reason AT ALL to think he is lying here. It seems a no brainer that the next move for GNR might be to add DJ to the existing un-used CD tracks - and he's a pro musician and so probably has a few riffs lying around to show Axl. Doing either of those things counts as "working on new music" to us - it's not like he said there would be 3 albums out by next summer.
Then there's Axl. Axl's perspective and choice of words is often different from other people's but I don't think he's lying - I think he believes what he says to be the truth, it's just that sometimes to others the view is a little different. Likewise it seems things change in GNR, and I'd venture to suggest mood and emotions can be part of it. So perhaps the times he's talked of tours that never happened or album releases that didn't eventuate - those plans were true at the time he said it - but then things either fell through or he changed his mind about bits etc.
So yeah, i really don't understand the fan reaction here. I mean I wouldn't take this to mean that anything will happen soon - as we all know it's a long way to finished products for GNR - but i really don't see a reason to think it's a lie, or that it's in anyway bad. It's what needs to happen if we want a new product one day - so i see it as great news.
ok, 1 time ron was honest & the rest of the time he's bitched about people asking him GnR related topics cause he doesn't deal with the business aspect. so what, he's just a puppet on a string if he doesn't hold any sway or power in the 'business' direction of his supposed band. my point being, if that is his position, it's not a particularly valid position to be speaking on any subject.
dj - i see no empirical evidence to believe him. & in fact, my point here is, that given his track record it's more than likely he's talking shit. it's nothing personal, it's just the way he handles it.
axl - well axl's lies stretch from here to timbuktu. a lot of the time, from his perspective, maybe he isn't lying. but a lot of the time he is flat out lying/not telling the truth.
the only reason for the backlash is because of how preposterous dj's comments were in the first place. the actual truth would be more outrageous & fit for discussion (the truth being dj knows & does fuck all, as does everyone in the GnR camp) this is just another silly little hiccup from a sometime bandmember flippantly throwing off some quotes on a sensitive subject matter.
#3086 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 811 weeks ago
GNR fans are an angry bunch. I understand the hesitation and disbelief, but it's funny, and sad to read. Reminds me of the time when people said, "Chinese Democracy will NEVER come out". Then it did, and instead of admitting they were wrong it was onto the next thing that wouldn't happen or whatever was wrong, etc. It's always something. The band obviously has plenty of issues and isn't the easiest band to support, but this bashing DJ for saying they're working on new music seems a little much to me.
I respect the guy. He's talked about working on new music in the past and obviously nothing came of that, and it was even tempered by Ron's comments. But still, he's not afraid to come out and say it AGAIN. Who's to say if/when we get new music. Guys just can't do anything right. Ron takes the "no comment" approach and he gets blasted. DJ speaks as everything is fantastic and he gets flamed. Axl says NOTHING, and he gets bashed. The band makes comments on facebook and they get called lame.
There's a common trend here. Happy days will be here again, just hang on tight until then.
when exactly were the happy days?
the problem with ron/dj/axl getting flamed is - why don't they just tell the truth? (tho then of course they'd get it for being truthful)
i don't necessarily dismay at ron's reluctance or axl's silence, or even dj's egregious self-promo. but it is insensitive to flippantly equivocate on the matter of GnR material, where everyone and their dog know by this stage that is an extremely volatile subject matter.
it's blatantly obvious dj is lying in this particular case. it's simply outrageous to expect anyone, fans or not, to believe what he is saying regarding GnR.
and if by some slender chance it is true what he is saying, there is absolutely no evidence, of any kind, to support his spurious comments.
that is why there is a backlash this time.
#3087 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 811 weeks ago
I don't like to sound jaded, but, I am, and they made me this way, as such, I doubt we'll ever get another guns album.
i have got this feeling/impression too.
it doesn't stay with me all the time, but i can defo see it as a possibility & wouldn't be surprised if we never did see further officially sanctioned albums/material.
& even IF they are sending tapes to Axl of ideas, the crux of the matter remains being His enthusiasm for the cause & whether that even still exists. best case scenario He likes some of their stuff & starts the whole process again of cutting & pasting ideas into various songs without ever getting anything finished. He might spend the rest of His life tinkering away on Oklahoma or Soul Monster but i find it very difficult to believe these things are being worked on day-in-day-out given the rate of productivity compared to the supposed amount of work being put in. given the rate of productivity it SEEMS more likely He is procrastinating & easily distracted lacking the forthright conviction & confidence to release new material - we're just getting deeper & deeper into the hole & eventually we'll have to hit rock bottom where He says enough is enough that there's no more coming out.
#3088 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 811 weeks ago
What a clown.
They aren't working on any new music we all know that.
this got posted while i was typing my response. it sums up my feels much more succinctly than my own post.
#3089 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dj Says working new GnR songs ! :Ashba Black Carpet Interview » 811 weeks ago
he's obv lying thru his teeth
look how he touches his face when the interviewer begins the question - he knows what the question is gonna be & what his answer is gonna be. & his answer for press interviews is BS. maybe 'cause he maybe wants to further the preposterous notion of Axl as some obsessive workaholic tinkering away studiously on GnR material.
but he can't really come out n say "hey there's no ideas & nothing is happening but at least i get paid. sometimes. & i get a shitload more attn for kinda being in GnR than i do for dressing like a clown so it's ok don't worry about me."
#3090 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 811 weeks ago
lol@the placement of the guitar in that pic
