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#331 Re: Guns N' Roses » 7/5/16 Lisbon, Portugal AC/DC (First Show With Axl) » 523 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Will Axl still be in a chair?

Yup.

How’s the foot?
Axl:
“It’s getting better little by little – it’s about halfway there. I’m only now starting to put weight on the front and I haven’t been walking up until the last few days.”

But it’s on the mend?
Axl:
“Yep, it is on the mend – I went and had x-rays two days ago and was on the phone with my doctor and we’re doing good.”

There’s a new chair for the shows too, apparently? [Rose borrowed Dave Grohl’s ‘throne’ from last year’s Foo Fighters show for Guns N’ Roses’ Coachella gigs]
Axl:
“It is the same actual chair itself with a different base so I worked more with their stage set-up, ‘cos I just thought it was too high and grandiose and crazy whereas this kind of blends in.”

#332 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 523 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

HAHAHAHA, Axl does PR for AC/DC but not GNR. LOL. He looks really happy and looks younger too!

Spot on.

However, with Guns,  does he really need to? With Slash, it's legit Guns for 99% of people. He can get away with it by giving strong performances - shut up and sing.

With Axl/DC, he needs to show up for Angus. He needs to show their fanbase that he's ready to go the distance. The fact that Angus is the focal point is best for all - it's his band, anyway.

#333 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 523 weeks ago

Sounds good. It's going to be interesting to see how Axl responds to the material live. It's one of his favourite bands and he's doing the replacement singer deal for the second time in his career - if we include the Freddie Mercury tribute concert. It's the equivalent of joining Guns to replace someone else - the songs are there and you need to step up to the plate to keep the machine going. Should be insightful to him in many ways.

Having said that, the dude's insane lucky, when it all comes down to it. People were glooming and dooming after the '02 tour cancellation and here he is, nigh 15 years down the line, doing on a sideshow with AC/DC, the biggest rock act out there, having revved up his own wheels with Slash.

What can you say?

Back in black I hit the sack
I been too long I'm glad to be back
Yes I am
Let loose from the noose
That's kept me hanging about
I keep looking at the sky cause it's gettin' me high
Forget the hearse cause I'll never die
I got nine lives cat's eyes
Using every one of them and runnin' wild
Cause I'm back

#334 Re: The Sunset Strip » The STONE TEMPLE PILOTS Thread » 523 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

Now we understand what he was saying with "Six Degrees of Separation" - he's not the new STP singer he's the new singer for Art of Anarchy

Scott Stapp wrote:

I’m excited to share I’ve been working with Art Of Anarchy band who’s members are Ron “Bumble Foot” Thal, formerly of Guns N Roses -src,

Poor Bumble Foot.

In between 2006-10, he was able to enjoy his time in Guns.
Ever since his car accident, he and Guns really nosedived.
He left with the most controversy since... Bucket? Slash?

Washing ashore with the Scotts, Weiland - and Stapp. 10

#335 Re: The Sunset Strip » Twin Peaks » 523 weeks ago

Robin Finck just added a new feather into his hat - he's in the cast of the series!

David Lynch is friends with Trent Reznor, which may explain how Robin landed an audition.

Again, Robin moves in the fringes of pop culture, seemingly care-free and dedicated at the same time.

#336 Re: Guns N' Roses » DJ ASHBA: AXL ROSE wanted me to be a part of GNR Reunion » 524 weeks ago

Axl once wanted both Brain and Frank live.

Rotating drummers midshow.

Big deal.

#337 Re: Guns N' Roses » Memories of the Use Your Illusion Tour: An Interview with Tracey Amos » 524 weeks ago

Dexter wrote:

Let's try something. I'll give a topic and lets try and get a few or more of your questions on the subject. I've either read or heard all types of opinions on these and that's not what I'm trying to get at here. What I'd like to try are the questions as straightforward and concise as you can try and make 'em. I'll read them and if possible answer them collectively. I'll do my best to give you what I can and we'll see how it goes. :xmasssanta: So here goes...

The ownership of the name Guns N' Roses.

src

The full story is something to the effect of Axl going Yoda with his hubris and Slash and Duff going Vader with their substance abuse. They all have their own accounts. They're looking back to a whirlwind of memories and are all barely at the same page.

Axl consulted his lawyers. How could he protect the assets of Guns? Well, they're in a three-way partnership as it is. He could pull the usual of US corporate legislation - run the company down behind a facade. All you lose are shareholders. You simply take the assets away and a three-way partnership turns into a sole propietor. To accomplish this, he would need the name - who'd control the name, would control the company.

Dexter wrote:

Now at that time I didn’t know or think about brand names or corporate value etc. All I knew is that I came in with the name and from day one everyone had agreed to it being mine should we break up and now it was in writing.

Axl indeed cares very little for money against his art. The lawyers made his bidding in a cutthroat fashion, as that's the legal loophole. Whether Axl completely understood the emotional consequences of his actions, we can only wonder. But he may have indeed been naive in his desire to protect the band assets.

Dexter wrote:

I still didn’t grasp any other issues until long after I’d left and formed a new partnership which was only an effort to salvage Guns, not steal it.

Tom Zutaut was probably the first to confirm there was an incident around the name.

Tom Zutaut wrote:

On the eve of the tour, Axl told the rest of the band that the only way he would play was if they'd give ownership of the name to him. They were looking at canceling the tour and losing millions and millions of dollars, [so] they capitulated.

Dexter wrote:

So let’s start here… the whole Axl wouldn’t go on stage yada yada… is complete and utter crap... Slash was imo being on the up and up in agreeing I had the rights and I wasn’t trying to be some snake in the grass pulling a fast one. The others could’ve cared less.

They were in a bad place to begin with. Axl ran the show and everybody was on his clock already. He wanted papers to be signed. Or he'd get mad. Everybody in the UYI crew must've known that the worst thing that can happen is Axl getting mad - that spells 'no-show'.

Dexter wrote:

No one pressured me, everyone was afraid and no one including myself wanted to break up Guns or the relationship.

Everybody but Axl were intimidated. He held the power and unwittingly abused it.

Dexter wrote:

If I hadn’t secured the rights I don’t know where I’d be and I’d probably call what would then be the current lineup "Those mother fuckers!!" 16

Damn straight. They could've otherwise fired your arse afterwards.

However, Axl fails to address the timing of the partnership rundown, after the Snakepit tour in late '95.

Now, the point here is that Duff was already in good health, recovering from his swollen pancreas and leading a healthy life like Axl. On the outset, Slash was active as a musician, spending the Guns downtime wisely by doing his own thing. It's doubtful he was as chronically and wholly wasted with Snakepit as he was during the UYI tour.

Maybe it in itself was a disciplinary action from Axl's perspective. Slash taking (3-4) maybe-Guns songs, recording them on his own, badmouthing Axl in the press and touring the world. The rascal.

That's when Slash and Duff became contracted employees. That's the other half of the coin, an arduous legal process by its own right. They worked on the '96 album somewhat. Duff and Matt were touring with Neurotic Outsiders on the side. Slash quit, during his trial period.

Dexter wrote:

In my opinion the reality of the shift and the public embarrassment and ridicule by others (which included a lot of not so on the level business types he was associating with at the time) for not contesting the rights to the brand name, were more than Slash could openly face... Painting me as the one who held a crowd hostage forcing the others to sign over the name worked out pretty well in that regard.

Axl may have a point, here. Certainly, Slash only opened up in the media about the name after he resigned, in January '97. People pointed out to him how he should've exercised his right as 1/3 shareholder to contest Axl's demands, or at least to ask for money.

Only, Slash and Duff gave it to Axl for nothing. Duff later mentioned he took business classes after Guns so he'd be able to go through the books from the UYI era, to see if anything was amiss. Apparently, they did check out. Duff must've gone through hell with them numbers.

After Slash opened up to the media with his version, the story escalated slowly and they ended up heading up to the courthouse a few times.

I can imagine after reading the depositions, the court was just as baffled as the rest of us.

The biggest band in the world was given away.

#338 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » "I quit the oldies band" - Chris Pitman » 524 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Still a little odd for the split to happen right now though.

We can only speculate, but...

Let's observe the situation. Slash and Duff were announced to return (still sounds big) around New Year's Eve. Let's call it on the safe side, say there had been serious talks about this for the entire 2015. What to do and how to do it.

Let's say Axl talks biz with Duff, talks stuff with Slash, melting down smartphone batteries. Meanwhile, Pitman frequents his Malibu compound. They fuss out around the mixing desk and tweet together, all bromance. They're working on, in all likelihood, Chinese Leftovers.

Now, the thawing of the ice with Slash was probably a step-by-step program. You'd figure things like a voicemail by Slash would be a big deal for Axl, let alone taking a call. Axl likes to talk about his issues to his friend, apparently a lot. While he was doing the vocals on UYI, he camped out in the studio. A ladyfriend came over for a few days, mostly to hear him talk.

Do the math. Pitman, who goes back to the Beavan era, completing the infinity project with Axl and having a front row seat to the future of Guns. Maybe even recording Slash. Pitman's got it made. He's likely to enjoy a fair share of writing credits on CD2. He's going to do Coachella with them. He's going to have a real role to play.

Not.

Axl hung up on him after the work on Leftovers wrapped. He found himself in a room with Slash and Duff.

The writer of Silk Worms found himself out of depth.

#339 Re: Guns N' Roses » Memories of the Use Your Illusion Tour: An Interview with Tracey Amos » 524 weeks ago

Traci wrote:

I remember the most negative thing was management. They didn't show us much love. But it was hectic and they probably didn't want to have more to manage... The tour schedule was intense so we had very little down time... Everything on the UYI tour was pretty much working like a machine.

Dougie had Axl to handle, and the rest of the band. Based on all we've heard, it's something of a miracle they pulled through with the UYI tour. The dangers were constant, from down to the wire contract negotiations to Izzy leaving, to late starts, riots and lawsuits.

#340 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 524 weeks ago

Good catch. There was a faint slur in the Kimmel interview, as well.

He had a throat issue or something, 'I'm on bunch of different things...'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4nN0Ua6eI#t=1m24s

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