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#3521 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
is payed the american spelling of 'paid' or just the stupid spelling of 'paid'? i'm almost certain it's the stupid. or stoopid. $lashba's as big an idiot as del/fernando/jarmo.. maybe worse.
GnR took their fans' money & didn't give them the show they paid for, & they've done it before & they'll do it again..
#3522 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
johndivney wrote:are u guy's serious?! still on that tweet?! what the hell does one thing have to do with the other? OMG i can't believe i'm still even responding to this twitter thing..
I know you're trying to show love for the band, which I get, but even I have to admit it makes a bit of a pattern. Maybe it's co-incidence...but first a show starts real late, promoters say technical problem not axl, bumble is upset, Axl's twitter says the tour is off (hacked or not), then the tour is announced as on, Reading festival warns not to go on late, band comes on late, set cut short, Axl cancels next peformance.
It could all be chance, but it does seem that things are starting to go badly.
it doesn't seem like things are going any more badly than they have since the turn of the year.
this reading/leeds debacle seems like an isolated - yet somehow typical & unsurprising - incident.
like olorin mentioned earlier i think we've had late starts at every gig since the asian tour.. reading is the only place promoters pulled the plug, axl retaliates by cancelling the 2nd leg of the reading/leeds commitment. i honestly don't see the connection to a hacked tweet - that was actually denied a couple of hours after it happened. but the fact we're still debating whether the tweet was axl or not is what i find amazing - that has nothing to do with whether i love this band or think they're idiots (i think both things) it's just amazing how little has changed in two weeks. despite all the evidence we have we can't get past this tweet thing.
#3523 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:If Axl actually said "we're not playing Leeds after this", then i'm of the FULL belief that the Tweet was 100% authentic, and one of his Axlisms.
This.
Axl really wants this tour to collapse. Stupid old dickhead.
are u guy's serious?! still on that tweet?! what the hell does one thing have to do with the other? OMG i can't believe i'm still even responding to this twitter thing..
#3524 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
I kind of like it though. Someone had the guts to stand up to him and just pull the plug.
yep. unfortunately it's taken a long time 4 this to occur, in the past pulling the plug may have caused a riot but by this stage audiences are so wearied by the late starts they'll side with the promoters..
#3525 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
Aussie wrote:Yeah given that it was made clear to them that if they went past 12:00pm (or whatever the time was) then the plug would be pulled, for Axl to pull his usual stunt of going on late is fucked. His actions effectively say to the fans that he doesn't give a fuck that they paid money and didn't get a complete show.
The outcome was always going to be the same if they hit the stage late, it appeared to be set in stone. Yet knowing the potential outcome Axl still chose to screw the people over. Deliberately making them wait and not starting until later meant he deliberately short changed the fans.
I know people will say this is par for the course with him, Axl plays by his own rules etc etc, but this whole schtick got old and tired years ago.
The fans were screwed royally. That sit in at the end was such an empty gesture. You wanna do something for the fans, you go on at the appointed hour and give them their moneys worth!
agreed, unless there was an honestly legit reason 4 the late start (but i don't believe it).
#3526 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
Its just losing its appeal to me, they dont seem to be trying anymore.
i have similar doubts tbh.. but i am hopeful that live they do give it their all. for all the shit that goes down a small part of me thinks they do believe in what they're doing & are giving 100% when on stage (& maybe even off it - on tour)..
a boring & cold (& dreary) tues night in belfast could be just what the doctor ordered...
#3527 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
i think belfast will be mundane enough.. BUT if there are real problems of getting axl on stage i can see the crowd getting violent and/or leaving.
but i've also seen no real evidence of severely bad behaviour from axl regarding actually doing the concert since '02 (unless i'm forgetting something..?? llike there's been no last min cancellations 'cause he's being an eejit) so i'm confident it'll be a typical gig.
#3528 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
i nvr thought the reading fans would care enough to riot tbh. leeds'll be a different matter - & in fact it's a tradition for that crowd to riot (burning toilets & rioting w/the pigs) on sunday, which is when GnR are headlining & closing the festival.
the reading crowd are a bunch of pussy indie-kids.
#3529 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
This show was a big clusterfuck.
it's very much typical of the saga & a microcosm of the whole CD-era/world tour really.
#3530 Re: Guns N' Roses » Reading, United Kingdom - August 27, 2010 (Reading Festival) » 785 weeks ago
Well, not really. If they started on damn time they could've wrapped things up nicely. You gotta wonder though if they do this stuff on purpose. Actually I'm quite sure of it. They were threatened. Axl tweeted 2 hours before show time to show people, "oh, he's there, they'll definitely be on time." Then they STILL go on an hour late as if to say, "F- you, I want to see you pull that plug." And, they did.
I'm not sure what to make of this. Will this change anything? Probably not.
+1 on all this.
