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#351 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:PaSnow wrote:Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
Yeah there was some lobsided posts earlier on this. Funny when the guy was calling you out for now knowing the facts.
No, I'm still here and very aware of the facts. I find it unlikely the 17 year old picked up his rifle and randomly shot someone. That is murder. Some rioter assaulting him, and him firing his weapon in response/defense, is a totally different argument. Murder means something. Self-defense and manslaughter also have meanings. I'll wait for evidence of what occurred. We already know the other 2 shootings were justified. Normally armed people don't run away from unarmed people they want to kill.
Don't think I said you had gone?
What you find unlikely and likely are opinions and theories, not facts. I don't even know what happened, but it is clear facts are sketchy at best.
#352 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:PaSnow wrote:Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
Yeah there was some lobsided posts earlier on this. Funny when the guy was calling you out for now knowing the facts.
Truly is funny. Went from store owners protecting their businesses, to an innocent bystander getting chased down by a violent angry mob, to a 17 year old idiot shooting a guy in the head at point blank range, calling 911 to say "I just killed somebody", running away, bystanders chasing after him to ensure he doesn't escape and is charged, and the 17 year old idiot shooting another person and escaping.
Those ever moving goalposts eh.
#353 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
Funny, everyone in my country has a right to arms too. But I don't feel the need to have them anywhere in public. Regardless of laws, I'm not talking laws, I'm talking common sense. You love semantics.
Also why are you feeling like I attacked your country. Slag mine all you want I hold no loyalty to any piece of land.
You sure you ain't Flagg?
#354 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
Ok. So you guys have it wrong. the 17 year old MURDERED somebody. Then, the crowd chased him down to detain him for murder, then he shot somebody else to avoid detention and escaped.
Interesting.
Yeah there was some lobsided posts earlier on this. Funny when the guy was calling you out for now knowing the facts.
#355 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
IRISH OS1R1S wrote:Not something I want to get in to, but if a guy counter protesting at a protest with an AR15 gets mobbed maybe its because of the gun. Would he be mobbed if he wasn't carrying? Then the question is who is defending themselves. The mob from the crazy guy with the gun or vice versa?
I'm arguing for neither side, just showing how there can be multiple perspectives. These can be discussed without the need to personally attack anyone..... Buzz.
Well, we have had instances where armed civilians have been stopping destruction/violence. The difference is this was a kid who had no business being in a place alone he didn't know with a weapon amongst a violent crowd.
Don't even get me started on armed civilians.
#356 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:lol, yeah George Floyd died of Fetanoyl not someone kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes. Come on. That'd be the worst court case ever. Might as well plead guilty before going that route.
Yea, I know you have your narrative, but the claim of a choke hold has never been proven. Generally speaking, people in a carotid hold can't speak. I know you want this to justify the violence, but what if the officer never applied a carotid hold? What if you watched the videos and saw Floyd saying "I can't breathe" before officers put him in a restraint? What if you saw Floyd actively resisting arrest and coming up with a million excuses why he shouldn't be arrested. What if Floyd had COVID-19, methamphetamine, marijuana and lethal dose of fentanyl in his system? There's a coroner's report stating as much and ample video evidence.
I agree, a carotid choke for 9 minutes is murder. But I also know that after 7-10 seconds of a carotid choke, people pass out. They don't moan for minutes. I guess we'll have to wait for the jury and actual evidence to be provided, and not the claims of people who live 2k miles away from the scene.
I'm glad your confident enough in your version of events that new evidence can't move you from your position. It must feel good to know you're right without any consideration of why.
After watching the video seen around the world, this is one hell of a take.
#357 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
Not something I want to get in to, but if a guy counter protesting at a protest with an AR15 gets mobbed maybe its because of the gun. Would he be mobbed if he wasn't carrying? Then the question is who is defending themselves. The mob from the crazy guy with the gun or vice versa?
I'm arguing for neither side, just showing how there can be multiple perspectives. These can be discussed without the need to personally attack anyone..... Buzz.
#358 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
Ah more insults. Stay classy KAREN.
#359 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
Oh you dropped some rep. Lol what a child, I'm devastated.
#360 Re: The Garden » The new and God willing improved politics thread » 318 weeks ago
No, because of what I just posted, son.
