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#351 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 2 » 299 weeks ago
Did Prom Violence meld into Shacklers? It kind of sounds like it.
I think Bucket has a range of backwards reverse highway riffs. I was on the train trying to work out what it sounds like. It’s Rob zombie meets Trance beats. It’s very fast but not heavy riffing. Mustache is like that too. A new Perfect Crime but this time it’s a diamond sickle. It’s slicing through the fields of corn.
#352 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 2 » 299 weeks ago
Scabbie's right about No Quarter.
When I heard that as a teen it made me think of death too.
I think the first time I heard No Quarter was on some animated Lord of the Rings movie, it was the music for a Black Riders scene. So it kind of had this dark cool danger too it.
But after getting the Remasters, I started to recognize Zepp have this way of sounding ancient and futuristic at once. Even though AFD was out Zepp still sounded like aliens from the future. Timeless across dimensions.
That’s kind of what I hear from Bucket here and there. Traditional rock songs but with some futuristic feel. Like when he unloads on Sorry, that’s from the future that’s not something happening now.
#353 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 2 » 299 weeks ago
AFD has a strong identity. Hard rock party album with a great swing.
CD does too. Multi-layered alt rock pop with a huge sound.
The rockers on CD are weak as hell. It’s not where Axl’s head was at. RMCD#1 hit the main vein.
The problem is AFD was huge and the whole thing went to everybody’s heads. Neither Classic or New Guns went through the fire of 2-3 average to good albums to hone down voice and identity.
The AFD elements of CD songs like CD, Shacklers, Better, Scraped are well hidden. And that was what CD was about. Either working Shanklers to a nu metal YCBM or Ramping up The Blues to the production of Faith No More. These stylistic opposites blending to the point you don’t hear it.
I think GNR seem to do their honing in secret sessions, not sure if it’s conscious but they aren’t trying to make the same record twice. Really it’s Axl, he’s said that. Partly it’s scrutiny maybe. But to stay on top they had to stay ahead. Harder and harder to do.
And maybe they had another disc of CD but after awhile you start to think this Bucket stuff could be it’s own Zepp Korn album.
#354 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Best of Rough Mixes Disc 1, Elimination Series Round 5 » 299 weeks ago
i might be crazy, but perhaps just doesn't really do it for me.
the piano parts are dope as fuck, but the hay haaays and the uninspired lyrics kill the song for me.
the chorus is also pretty weak. i'm just not feeling this song yet.
atlas has been stuck in my head permanently after the first few listens.
Basically yes but Madagascar has the longevity. The May Catcher is almost mythical. Chi dem is much more raw and dynamic version, The Blues is kind of the UYI version people hear the Elton thing. Madagascar is a classic GNR track at this point.
#355 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Best of Rough Mixes Disc 1, Elimination Series Round 5 » 299 weeks ago
I don’t feel good about voting off Prostitute last round. At this point these tracks are all great versions. I have some kind of problem comparing them to the album versions and have bias to Atlas and Perhaps maybe because they are new.
So I guess if they are all fine versions, The Blues is the song I’ve always listened to less.
#356 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 1 » 299 weeks ago
wasted2019-2028 wrote:What is strange is that Atlas Shrugged and Perhaps are the best sounding tracks on Disc 1 but they were left on the shelf. If they put out a double cd set one of these on each is going to help.
I think the only reason you didn't hear Atlas and Perhaps, were that they weren't leaked beforehand.
That’s pretty likely, but who decided the leaks?
But those two tracks are also stand out from that group as good to go. Zutaut said Atlas was the first single. How good did they feel about the CD songs that they could leave off a single. Maybe it was Disc 1 and 2. CD II tracks like Shack, ITW, Sorry being brought in. TIL as well. Leaked plus some new tracks that didn’t leak early. I wonder if Costanzo got State, Atlas and Perhaps tightened up. The difference between Shankler’s and the official instrumental is stark. Listening to Korn it seems like Bucket got Korn’d. Those first instrumentals were much more fluid than what he played later.
#357 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 3 » 299 weeks ago
Beltrami said he did orchestra on Seven?
#358 Re: Guns N' Roses » perhaps it's robin finck or brian may » 299 weeks ago
Its Brian May. He plays leads on this, Catcher and Atlas
Atlas solo is pretty nice.
#359 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rough Mixes Disc 1 » 299 weeks ago
What is strange is that Atlas Shrugged and Perhaps are the best sounding tracks on Disc 1 but they were left on the shelf. If they put out a double cd set one of these on each is going to help.
#360 Re: Guns N' Roses » When will we hear more vault material? » 299 weeks ago
FlashFlood wrote:James wrote:I have zero interest in anything Chinese done post Bucket departure.
2000-04 is where it all resides.
I generally agree but think think there is a 100 percent chance Axl’s vocals for most of those songs is post-bucket.
Better was finished when rtb was there, presumably so was:
Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul
Seven
The General
Ides of March...and Sorry along with some others that weren't released.
Lofton's right, the tracks from pre 2005 are key. Anything after 2006 and it starts to fall apart musically.
Not sure. Better was finished in 2004 with Costsnzo. I mean Fortus added parts. I think Ron added rhythm guitar to all tracks. There was a lot or re-recording with Costanzo too, crazy as that sounds. Maybe that’s why people quit, so they didn’t have to do anymore recording. I think it was all about getting all the tracks on the same page. But damn when Bucket unloads on Sorry it’s epic, a lot of personality was lost. But it’s all there you just have to listen with billion dollar headphones.
