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#3861 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Using fucked up logic in a losing argument. Maybe all the boards should shut down since Slash knows more than any of us.

That's your comeback line...


Hmmmmm...

I basically said the same thing as you to show you the absurdity of it. If you have a problem with it, go look in the mirror.


Couple of other juicy nuggets from the mind of atarilegend and apparently Marc Canter as well.....


Tobias played on the original demos, Slash did re-do it in his own style... but he was for the most part playing parts already created by some one else


Creativity is creating the music not playing it.

Played the original/created the guitar parts. If we went by who has credit on a sleeve as the song writer... Axl would un-doubly be the greatest multi-instrumentalist of all time.

14 I think you'd jump off a bridge if the end result was Slash losing a few songwriting credits.

Your opinions suck as usual.

You do this everytime there's an argument.

You can't win a direct argument without evidence against what the other person is saying be it sales or reviews ect..., so you either point towards something totally irrelavant or do what your doing now, try to act like a smart ass and not even bother arguing.

James Lofton wrote:
war wrote:

The contents of this thread are hilarious

We've went from not giving Axl enough credit to giving Slash too much credit, and now apparently Tobias was the mastermind of GNR.


I like Tobias. For years I have wanted him to come back. I just think its insane that some people try and diminish what the original line up contributed.

Didn't say that...

..But as usual you can't be bothered trying to read what I actually say.

So goodbye.

And btw...

Have fun waiting on a new BBA account one day leaking a new "Guns N' Roses" album.

#3862 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

You forgot to list half of AFD. 14  No one on this planet but you is gonna give him credit for Don't Cry and NR.

I'm not gonna give him credit for those other songs either.

Go reread those ASCAP credits you just posted for reference.

James Lofton wrote:

-Half of the "Appetite For Destruction" Demos
-Most of "Lies"
-3/4 of "Use Your Illusion" Demos[/i]

I removed that part, after I posted an actual list of tracks. You quoted something I had the to delete myself months ago. Well played.

#3863 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

"Anything Goes"
"Shadow Of Your Love"
"Oh My God"

James Lofton wrote:

-Some of "Lies" Demos

"Reckless Life"
"Move To The City"

James Lofton wrote:

-Several of the "Use Your Illusion" Demos

"Back Off Bitch"
"Don't Cry"
"November Rain"

?

Were not originally recorded by Slash...

I'm skipping the "Chinese Democracy" part...

#3864 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

...Of course Mark Canter, knows alot less about Pre "AFD" Gn'R, than you.

Using fucked up logic in a losing argument. Maybe all the boards should shut down since Slash knows more than any of us.

That's your comeback line...


Hmmmmm...

#3865 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

GNR fan #2: Yeah, but he still wrote the songs, he just didn't play the instruments. By the way, did you know Slash and Duff didn't write anything? Traci Guns and Paul Tobias wrote that music.

Never said Slash and Duff didn't right a thing.

There's never been any suggestion that "Sweet Child O' Mine", "Nightrain", "Paradise City" ect... were originally recorded or played by other people.

James Lofton wrote:

He once insinuated that Tobias was a major contributor to UYI in a background role.

"Sweet Lorraine", "Don't Cry", "Move To The City" ect... and several other lesser songs existed in some capacity pre-"Gn'R".

...Of course Mark Canter, knows alot less about Pre "AFD" Gn'R, than you.

#3867 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

i think its already been said that all the old songs from the beginning of gnr were rewritten with the "orig" 5 tongue

Hmmmmmm...

The only direct example that I can use, from an "album" track, where it's easy to compare is "Anything Goes".

Listen to the "Rose" demo, not alot was changed in the "Appetite For Destruction" version, different people playing mostly same guitar and drum parts with different lyrics.

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?req … 10&start=1

Minor song or not, it's still a point.

#3868 Re: Guns N' Roses » Who REALLY wrote Chinese Democracy » 891 weeks ago

emcitymisfit wrote:

So Axl told Marco Beltrami every single note to play in TiL? Axl wrote the harp solos, etc?

What about Slash playing Tracii Guns guitar parts in "Don't Cry"...?

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