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#31 Re: Guns N' Roses » Last Unhyped/Unknown/Unleaked Track Release Question » 21 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

Whats the last Guns N' Roses track to be offically released that wasn't leaked in advance in some version that we never heard off years in advance before?

Its none of the recent post reunion stuff and most of the cd had been leaked in some form in advance. This I Love was also mentioned in articles in years prior. I don't remember the Shackler's Revenge timeline.

Is it Scraped (when the album came out) or something older like Oh My God or Since I Don't Have You? (I'm too young to know what happened on 90s forums).

It's probably Oh My God, we got a leak of the song but after the actual release. From memory all of CD leaked out on Myspace shortly before release but I skipped listening to that so when I heard the album I think the only song that was completely new to me was Scraped.

There was a fake leak of Scraped with an alternative intro years later but that is definitely fake. So yeah Oh My God and also Sympathy back in 94 didn't leak either

#32 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 21 weeks ago

sp1at wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.

That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song

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@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).

Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.

Oh well, that would make sense. I noticed Brain said to me that Seven has Ben Hur in it, so it would fit in. We'll maybe never know

Brain also said this about it years later...

Extrakd [Steve Freeman] and Mirv [Marc Haggard] and I, when I wasn’t doing Guns stuff, we’d just jam in my living room type of thing. You know, we had, like, a ProTools setup and we were jamming, and we were trying to come up with songs for Guns. We were writing all these crazy songs to try to turn in and these were coming from, like, you know, Extrakd is an old school dj type – he’s a bass player, but he loves old school break beats and, you know, cratedigger type of guy – and so this shit we were putting together was crazy. You know, we were just kind of going like, “Okay, what samples should we find for Axl?” Like, “Well, he’s kind of like Julius Caesar”, so we were sampling Julius Caesar, looking for albums, you know, and old school crazy shit. And I think we sampled, like, Ben Hur and chopped it up and cut it up, and that became a jam called “Seven” – I think we called it “Seven”. And I remember bringing that to the studio to have – I think Roy Thomas Baker was producing at that point and, you know, we’d be playing the stuff and he’d be in. Brain Appetite for Distortion, March 17, 2019

Whilst obviously this is a different song to Mustache it supports the notion that members bringing songs in could direct what a song or idea was about, not just Axl.

I doubt Axl would know about that French drummer but I can believe Brain would. However all of that is a moot point as its just an isolated claim from a Youtube commentor with no supporting info from anywhere else.

#33 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 21 weeks ago

AgesOfTheIce wrote:

Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.

Yeah just a theory

#34 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 22 weeks ago

To play devils advocate It may be worth noting that if this claim was real it wouldn't hinge on Axl's knowledge of the French drummer or Zorro. It was Brain who has mentioned before that it was he and EXTRAKD who were findings samples (eg) Ben Hur..

It's not like it was Axl who named a song after chicken, or called Better Three Dollar Pyramid. Everything suggests that the writing of these songs was a group effort.

But obviously anyone can make wild claims in comment sections. There is one guy would claims Paul Tobias wrote everything and another who is a mental Fink fan and has probably hounded all of us at some point.

#35 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 22 weeks ago

@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.

That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song

Reply

@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).

Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.

#36 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 22 weeks ago

Can you link the video please?

#37 Re: Guns N' Roses » Children of the Revolution » 22 weeks ago

After listening to this further I have serious doubts that this is real. Piano on the back end cuts off and re-enters back into the track in a weird way and the entire second half feels empty, those things in itself do not mean its fake but something feels off. Zak Starkey would know for sure obviously

#38 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 22 weeks ago

Blackstar wrote:

There were some ADATs in Tom Zutaut's storage locker, if I'm not mistaken, although most of them probably not related to GN'R. Maybe a couple were, like the Sympathy For The Devil sessions (I think they were in ADATs).

I vaguely remember seeing the image's of the Sympathy For The devil stuff now you mention it I think. Old school black VHS-S cases so yeah I would assume ADATs

#39 Re: Guns N' Roses » Children of the Revolution » 22 weeks ago

Saboteur wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

What's the difference between these and the versions we have already heard?

I haven't heard the original leak of COTR since it leaked earlier this year but I believe it was way shorter with the end cut off. Havent compared the mixes yet they may be different. Monsters is way higher quality than the original leak, far higher bit rate.

is this real? COR sounds fake to me.

I was sceptical before hearing them because there is enough in the original leak of COR to fake an alt version if you picked it apart and started copy and pasting parts I think.

Also Monster being lossless audio is great but there are ways of faking that, even if you run it through SPEK to check such things it can be faked. But after listening I would say these are real. Easiest way is to ask Zak if COT is the real version.

#40 Re: Guns N' Roses » Children of the Revolution » 22 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

What's the difference between these and the versions we have already heard?

I haven't heard the original leak of COTR since it leaked earlier this year but I believe it was way shorter with the end cut off. Havent compared the mixes yet they may be different. Monsters is way higher quality than the original leak, far higher bit rate.

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