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#4311 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 912 weeks ago

Handsome B. Wonderful wrote:
Olorin wrote:

There Was A Time - just like I thought, a steaming topsy turvy turd only given credability by Buckethead saving the day at the end.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Agreed, love it in every version.

#4312 Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Revisiting LA Music History: Guns N Roses 'Appetite for Destruction' » 912 weeks ago

AtariLegend
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It was a time when the Valley lingered somewhere between Frank Zappa's ramblings and a real life version of Paul Thomas Anderson's Boogie Nights. A mix of agriculture, dust, white wagon wheels, diners, car dealerships, suburban sprawl, new housing developments, and swimming pools, it was held together by all those long streets and lazy vowels. Here, in this world of shopping malls and classic rock, Guns N' Roses came to lay down the tracks for Appetite for Destruction. As Slash was quoted in Stephen Davis's Guns N' Roses biography Watch You Bleed, "After terrorizing Hollywood all night, we'd still, somehow, have to get up and be at the studio by twelve noon. And mostly we did it."

The place was Canoga Park's Rumbo Sound, a studio that producer Mike Clink chose for its physical distance from the Hollywood scene, leaving the notoriously rambunctious and destructive Guns N' Roses less likely to wander away into the street and into trouble.

According to the studio's website, "Rumbo was initially designed and built in 1979 by Daryl Dragon, also known as the 'Captain' of Captain & Tennille. Comfort along with a 'no pressure' creative environment in a studio was always the motto that Daryl believes enhanced he & his wife's (Toni Tennille) success in the music industry, and with the successful track records of countless other successful producers / engineers / artists that had since completed projects at Rumbo for more than two decades, the above described creative environment obviously contributed to the immense musical outflow from Rumbo."

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Aside from that slightly banal description, Rumbo, in its heyday -- that breezy, gauzy, sunset colored witching hour between 1979 and 1989 -- saw the likes of Kiss, Captain and Tennille, Tom Petty, Ringo Starr and others record some of their most famous albums.

And it's to that Valley, that dusty, flat, expanse, that Axl brought young Adriana Smith to lay down with him for his first bleeding-heart epic.

"Rocket Queen" is the final kiss-off on the behemoth known as Appetite For Destruction; it is the last track on the 12-song LP and hardly the album's most popular (that honor goes to such radio friendly classics as "Sweet Child Of Mine," "Welcome to the Jungle" and "Paradise City"). "Rocket Queen" is something different and far more intricate in its complexities. It was never destined to become the crowd favorite, and after hundreds of listens it's apparent that Axl Rose never intended it to be. He had bigger things in mind for the song; a giant middle finger to all the critics who had written Guns N' Roses off as empty-headed hair metal brahs clogging up the Sunset Strip.

Content-wise, Axl's lyrics speak to a deeper level of pain than that expressed in the misogynistic rage of the songs that precede it. Its self-awareness simultaneously enrages and softens Axl's humanity to us. If this person who has such tender insights and emotional intelligence can still release a song like "It's So Easy" ("Turn around bitch I got a use for you/Besides you ain't got nothin' better to do/And I'm bored), then what sort of man are we dealing with?

As if to drive the moral home Axl decided that the song needed an extra oomph, an extra kick in the emotional gut. The song needed the sound of fucking. Not just sex, but getting fucked. In Watch You Bleed, Axl explained: "It was a sexual song, and it was a wild night in the studio."

"Rocket Queen"'s brilliance is the song's transition from the hateful taunting and scolding that climaxes with Slash's solo to the eventual post coital depression in which we enter "part two" where Axl speaks openly and honestly with as much tenderness as he can muster to his broken, abused paramour. And who among us has not felt that imminent sadness after sex? There is a reason the French refer to the orgasm as "le petite mort,"- the little death. The climatic moment before this confession we hear the tape-recorded sounds of Axl screwing a young Adriana Smith, drummer Steven Adler's on-and-off 19-year-old stripper girlfriend at the time.

It's the song's understanding of its protagonist's turmoil and its heightened attention to its narrator's vulnerability that define it. "I see you standing/Standing on your own/It's such a lonely place for you/ For you to be." Coupled with the lacerating sound of Slash's grinding and slithering guitar, the song Jekyll-and-Hydes between tenderness and rage. Even when Axl offers his shoulder and devotion to the song's heroine the band pushes on, raising the ante on the situation despite Axl's best efforts to sooth us.

And then there is the rub; there is no comfort on these cold Hollywood streets, there is only pain and worry.

In Watch You Bleed, a former Geffen employee recounts to Davis, "Axl fucked two or three girls at least two or three times at Rumbo Sound, without being satisfied with the results." One of these girls, the one who made the cut, was Adriana. Davis writes of the recording session: "As the tape was rolling, Axl barked at her: 'C'mon, Adriana! Stop faking -- make it real!'"

A recent visit to the former Rumbo Studios in a quest to exhume those haunted moans yielded only a closed gate and crumbling façade. Two giant elephant statues adorn the once gleaming entryway, and the tattered blue awnings above the boarded windows, flap in the breeze. Newish shiny cars sat parked behind a beat down, empty tour van that looks as if it's been sitting in the same place decaying since the early 1990s. The creeping tendrils of one persistent bougainvillea vine swallow it back into the jungle.

The website had said that Rumbi had been sold in 2003 and that it was now being rented out for weddings and bat mitzvahs, but the broken down palace showed no signs of celebration, and in fact carried the aura of heavy sadness. Many buzzes of the intercom finally yielded one middle-aged man.

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Rumbo, now a shell of its former self.

"May I come in?"

"No, no," he stammered, I smiled at him but he was not charmed. "You must go." He shouted.

"But I've come to look around, I'm from the LA Weekly," I flashed my license, hoping he might mistake it for an ID.

"No, I am so sorry, you may not come in."

"But I'm writing about Appetite For Destruction. It was recorded here."

He stopped, brought a hand to his chin and smiled, "Guns N' Roses?"

"Yes" I shouted, nodding my head enthusiastically, "Guns N' Roses, yes!"

"I like Guns N' Roses," he said, smiling, his demeanor changing all together. "Was that recorded here?"

"Yes," I answered, practically breaking down in grateful tears.

"Well, you may not come in."

"Why not?"

"Because" he shrugged, "There is nothing inside." And then he turned around and walked back into the darkened shadows of the building.

It's been 22 years since the release of Appetite For Destruction, and probably close to 23 since young Adriana Smith gave her contribution to the albums mastery. In a recent interview she was quoted as saying "For years, I drank and used drugs out of shame over it," embarrassed by her musical legacy. But in truth, over two decades later it is her vulnerability, it is her moment of pleasure amongst the snarling hatchet of "Rocket Queen"'s blaring sonic tunnel that adds the humanity so desperately needed to bring its emotional gravity, it's tragic uselessness and hopefulness, home.

Source: http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsoun … istory-gu/

#4313 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy/Rock Band 2 (Tracks Leaking?) » 912 weeks ago

I like "Catcher In The Rye" without Lead Guitar, better than the album version.

#4314 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 912 weeks ago

Trades don't come in to effect till the start of the next round, meaning Monday.

It would also be cheating, given you would be able to check the spoilers before most of these shows air.

#4315 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 912 weeks ago

Superstars (14-05-09)

#1

REY MYSTERIO vs. SHELTON BENJAMIN
WINNER: Rey Mysterio via pin (+4 2008 Intentions)

#2

CHRISTIAN vs. MARK HENRY
WINNER: Christian via pin (+4 Axl Schwarzenegger)

#3

BIG SHOW vs. HORNSWOGGLE - Exhibition Match
WINNER: Big Show via dq (+7 BLS-Pride)

Rankings:

1. Axl Schwarzenegger 218 (+4)
2. James Lofton 202
3. AtariLegend 156
4. Slashfro 151
5. Rex 143
6. 2008 Intentions 117 (+4)
7. BLS-Pride 94 (+7)
8. Communist China 46

Team Rankings:

1. AtariLegend & James Lofton 358
2. Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions 335 (+8)
3. Rex & Slashfro 294
4. Communist China & BLS-Pride 140 (+7)

Roster:

RAW

Brie Bella, Festus, Goldust, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jamie Noble, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes, Santino Marella, Sim Snukal

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Hornswoggle (Cruiserweight Champion), Jerry Lawler, Lilian Garcia, Linda McMahon, Michael Cole, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. McMahon, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Shane McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, Vickie Guerrero

ECW

D.H. Smith, DJ Gabriel, Hurricane Helms, Katie Lea Burchil, Matt Striker, Natalya, Paul Burchill, Tiffany, Tyson Kidd, Zack Ryder

Inactive/Non-Wreslting:

Ezekiel Jackson, Todd Grisham, Tony Atlas, Tony Chimel

SmackDown!

Alicia Fox, Candice, Charlie Haas, Curt Hawkins, Eve, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, JTG, Kung Fu Naki, Layla, Maria, Michelle McCool, Mike Knox, Ricky Ortiz, R-Truth, Shad

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Jim Ross, Justin Roberts, Ranjin Singh, Theodore Long

Other/Unavailable:

JBL, Jimmy Snuka, Joy Giovanni, Mickey Rourke, Miss Jackie, Molly Holly, Roddy Piper, Stone Cold, Sunny, Tazz, Torrie Wilson, Victoria

Released/Unavailable:


Jobbers/Unavailable

Chad Collyer, David Floridia, Frankie Sloan

Current Participants:

BLS-Pride: Shawn Michaels, Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, Vladimir Kozlov, Mark Henry
2008 Intentions: Finlay, Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion), Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>
Communist China: Shelton Benjamin, The Miz , John Morrison,
The Brian Kendrick, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion)
AtariLegend: Triple H, Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Batista, Evan Bourne, Umaga
James Lofton: Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), C.M. Punk, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Melina (Womens Champion), Tommy Dreamer
Slashfro: Chris Jericho, Jeff Hardy, Kane, Jack Swagger, William Regal
Axl Schwarzenegger: Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Christian (ECW Champion), Matt Hardy, Ted DiBiase Jr., Maryse (Divas Champion)
Rex: John Cena, Undertaker, The Great Khali, Cody Rhodes, Chavo Guerrero

Teams:

AtariLegend & James Lofton: Batista, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), C.M. Punk, Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), Evan Bourne, Melina (Womens Champion), Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Tommy Dreamer, Triple H, Umaga

Communist China & BLS-Pride: Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, John Morrison, Mark Henry, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Shawn Micheals, Shelton Benjamin (United States Champion), The Brian Kendrick, The Miz, Vladimir Kozlov

Rex & Slashfro:Chavo Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, Kane, The Great Khali, Undertaker, William Regal

Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions: Christian (ECW Champion), Finlay, Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Maryse (Divas Champion), Matt Hardy, Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion),
Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>, Ted DiBiase Jr.

#4316 Re: The Sunset Strip » Portishead » 912 weeks ago

I got "Third" today, out of curiosity for all the uber-positive reviews it got.

Fantastic album, going to search for the rest of their discography now.

#4320 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 913 weeks ago

The highest scoring picks so far:

Edge = 106
Chris Jericho = 74
John Cena = 71
Triple H = 67
C.M. Punk = 64
Christian = 61
Randy Orton = 59
Batista = 55
Rey Mysterio = 55
Jeff Hardy = 40

-edit-

...And for Rex;

The Undertaker is expected to be back in action around mid-July, according to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. While that is not set in stone, WWE wants him to return over the summer with enough time to build to a big program for SummerSlam in August.

Source: http://rajah.com/base/

Unless he wins the title at the end of the game, you won't get alot of points from him.

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