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#431 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
misterID wrote:harmon420 wrote:I don't think you care either. I think people that are as polarized politically as you and mitch are, will grasp on to whatever "cause" as long as it supports the "R" or "D" talking point you subscribe to.
How do you figure that? I've stated many times that I think dreamers should be given citizenship. That we should have an e-verify system that allows employers to sponsor employees who are here illegally who've done everything right. So how am I polarized? The last few people I've quoted above are LIBERALS.
How the fuck can you say I don't care when I brought it up? Many times. Holy shit, what a dick move to jump in a thread and pull this out of your ass. I said he didn't care because he refuses to talk about it. He refuses to talk about any negativity about illegal border crossings, which includes child sex trafficking, and the untold numbers who die on the trek here. You've not added anything to this debate but this lazy horse shit.
Dude, if you're expecting the people who post in this section 1-2x a year to have done any real research to support their core beliefs, you're only kidding yourself. 2 billion in damages and 26 people killed during BLM riots last year, but 1.5 million in damage and one unarmed white woman shot by a cop behind a wall who literally just had 3 police officers standing next to her is the greatest tragedy to strike America:
We were told last year that Black Lives are undervalued and we need institutional changes. Yet now that more black children have been murdered in 2021 than all the children that have died from COVID is a reality, the importance of BLM as a national movement has waned. So any discussion of the record loss of Black Lives almost exclusively by other Black people, isn't allowed to be discussed. It's a banned topic here because the people who haven't read a news article on the same topic from two sources in their entire lives get upset when reality doesn't match their head cannon.
It's why January 6th is a story CNN and every other person lacking a single defense of Biden's performance can't let go from the front of their mind, but the attack on the White House was a fucking laugh riot:
On immigration, these jokers can't defend their stance. They're so used to screaming "racists!" and believing it an intelligible response, they're completely incapable of creating a coherent and fact based justification for their opinions. We just went through #MeToo where every actress who sucked a dick for a million dollar movie role was portrayed as a victim of the holocaust. It doesn't matter than at least 20% of the children being brought across the border had no DNA connection to the people calling them "family":
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … k-down-fa/
Central American children being exploited in the thousands for human trafficking isn't that big of a deal when your sole and primary focus is to appear woke and parrot what Twitter and MSM have explained is the only acceptable thought.
I know COVID is the worst disease and threat to the world in probably all of human history that warrants destroying the education of nearly every American child and the destruction of thousands of businesses all under the guise of safety. But 20% of illegals entering the country with COVID isn't a big deal at all:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr … e-n1276244If you're asking these jokers to stay consistent and apply their stated values and beliefs evenly, you're wasting your time. Mitch can't participate in a discussion with any semblance of a coherent dialogue. He has no interests in it. Harmon pops in once or twice a year to shit on someone and prove he doesn't read either, yet both sit smugly back assured that they have a better understanding of reality than anyone else. They won't be able to cite anything, or worse, cite things in direct conflict with what their argument is, but you're just wasting your breath here.
When their party is destroyed next year in the elections, they'll be the first ones claiming election irregularity. These people believe every conspiracy towards the right they can grasp their hands on, but defy logic and reason to handwave the very same behavior they claimed was the greatest threat to our nation.
Dude...if you expect to ever get a reasonable response from someone who made their mind up about the world during the Reagan administration....you're kidding yourself.
#432 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
Bill Maher: "If critical race theory means separating 5-year-olds by race and telling some you're oppressors and the others you're the oppressed, and giving up on a colorblind society, and resegregation, and racism is the essence of America—then I'm out."
Look at you do what you accused me doing a couple weeks ago....you cherry picked 2 sentences...good for you.
#433 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
Why are you trying to have me believe that every or even most children that come across the border with their parents or 'parents' are being sex trafficked?
#434 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
It’s only a crime when a toe touches US soil.
#435 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
It is illegal to sneak into the country, just like it is in every other country in the world, not just America. If any American commits a crime with their children, they're separated. None of this has anything to do with abortion.
It does have to do with abortion…the same people that advocate pro-life stances gleefully separate children from their families.
#436 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
We should definitely be known as the country that separates families because we decreed things illegal. But also we're banning abortions and trying to get Roe V. Wade overturned.
The subjectivity of what is illegal and wasn't illegal during the Trump administration is astonishing. Not only are we gonna separate from you from your family, but fuck you too....signed, the United States.
#437 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
Adam Kinzinger will not seek re-election. Boy...for a board full of people who claim to love centrists....there sure isn't much chatter about how every single centrist is being purged from the Republican party.
The Republicans are making it more clear that Trump has more power than ever. How on earth could I possibly consider their group of Trump puppet extremists?
My choice will continue to be, going forward, either to vote Democrat or not vote.
#438 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
Harvard educated journalist who was previously the editor of Vox, and the Atlantic and Slate before that.
I know it’s not a business insider story you posted but ignored any discussion on. But Google is your friend.
Just not sure why I should care what this guy says....
#439 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesiasPaid leave is very good, but the actual paid leave proposal that Richard Neal wrote was pretty rotten and cutting it makes a lot of sense.
Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesiasIt’s easy to write a technically sound, humane paid leave plan — but it would involve a broad-based payroll tax increase of the sort that all kinds of Democrats (and most voters) shy away from.
At the end of the day, that’s the core issue.
@mattyglesias
You can make lots of positive changes that impact people’s lives in good way without raising middle class taxes.But you cannot build a European-style comprehensive welfare state or any of its main pillars.
Who the fuck is Matthew Yglasias?
#440 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 255 weeks ago
Another way to get around personal income tax ax is to buy things under the company…these things become tax write offs for you personally.
‘Job creators’ play by a completely different set of rules. The government will subsidies you on your personal income tax when your business loses money.
