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#4422 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 915 weeks ago

It's a win by doing whatever it is you're supposed to do, to win.

For example winning an "I Quit" Match, because you made the other person quit or a "First Blood" Match, because the other person bleed first.

#4423 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 915 weeks ago

ECW (29-04-09)

#1

TYSON KIDD vs. FINLAY
WINNER: Tyson Kidd via pin

#2

CHRISTIAN vs. TOMMY DREAMER (ECW Championship)
WINNER: No Contest (+1 Axl Schwarzenegger, +1 James Lofton)


Rankings:

1. Axl Schwarzenegger 191
2. James Lofton 185
3. AtariLegend 136
4. Rex 132
5. Slashfro 110
6. 2008 Intentions 99
7. BLS-Pride 57
8. Communist China 33

Team Rankings:

1. AtariLegend & James Lofton 321
2. Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions 290
3. Rex & Slashfro 242
4. Communist China & BLS-Pride 90

Roster:

RAW

Brie Bella, Festus, Goldust, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jamie Noble, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes, Santino Marella, Sim Snukal

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Hornswoggle (Cruiserweight Champion), Jerry Lawler, Lilian Garcia, Linda McMahon, Michael Cole, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. McMahon, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Shane McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, Vickie Guerrero

ECW

DH Smith, DJ Gabriel, Hurricane Helms, Katie Lea Burchil, Matt Striker, Natalya, Paul Burchill, Tiffany, Tyson Kidd, Zack Ryder

Inactive/Non-Wreslting:

Ezekiel Jackson, Todd Grisham, Tony Atlas, Tony Chimel

SmackDown!

Alicia Fox, Candice, Charlie Haas, Curt Hawkins, Eve, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, JTG, Kung Fu Naki, Layla, Maria, Michelle McCool, Mike Knox, Ricky Ortiz, R-Truth, Shad

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Jim Ross, Justin Roberts, Ranjin Singh, Theodore Long

Other/Unavailable:

JBL, Jimmy Snuka, Joy Giovanni, Mickey Rourke, Miss Jackie, Molly Holly, Roddy Piper, Stone Cold, Sunny, Tazz, Torrie Wilson, Victoria

Released/Unavailable:


Jobbers/Unavailable

David Floridia, Frankie Sloan

Current Participants:

BLS-Pride: Shawn Michaels, Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, Vladimir Kozlov, Mark Henry
2008 Intentions: Finlay, Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion), Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>
Communist China: Shelton Benjamin, The Miz , John Morrison,
The Brian Kendrick, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion)
AtariLegend: Triple H, Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Batista, Evan Bourne, Umaga
James Lofton: Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), C.M. Punk, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Melina (Womens Champion), Tommy Dreamer
Slashfro: Chris Jericho, Jeff Hardy, Kane, Jack Swagger, William Regal
Axl Schwarzenegger: Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Christian (ECW Champion), Matt Hardy, Ted DiBiase Jr., Maryse (Divas Champion)
Rex: John Cena, Undertaker, The Great Khali, Cody Rhodes, Chavo Guerrero

Teams:

AtariLegend & James Lofton: Batista, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), C.M. Punk, Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), Evan Bourne, Melina (Womens Champion), Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Tommy Dreamer, Triple H, Umaga

Communist China & BLS-Pride: Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, John Morrison, Mark Henry, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Shawn Micheals, Shelton Benjamin (United States Champion), The Brian Kendrick, The Miz, Vladimir Kozlov

Rex & Slashfro:Chavo Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, Kane, The Great Khali, Undertaker, William Regal

Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions: Christian (ECW Champion), Finlay, Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Maryse (Divas Champion), Matt Hardy, Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion),
Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>, Ted DiBiase Jr.

#4424 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 915 weeks ago

RAW (26-04-09)

#1

THE BRIAN KENDRICK vs. KOFI KINGSTON
WINNER: Kofi Kingston via pin (+4 2008 Intentions)

#2

SANTINO MARELLA & KELLY KELLY & MICKIE JAMES & BRIE BELLA vs.
MARYSE & BETH PHOENIX & JILLIAN & ROSA MENDES - 4vs4 Tag Team Match
WINNERS: Santino Marella & Kelly Kelly & Mickie James & Brie Bella via pin

#3

GOLDUST vs. MATT HARDY
WINNER: Matt Hardy via pin (+4 Axl Schwarzenegger)

#4

RANDY ORTON vs. MONTEL VONTAVIOUS PORTER
WINNER: No Contest (+1 Axl Schwarzenegger, +1 AtariLegend)

#5

THE MIZ vs. JOHN CENA
WINNER: The Miz via forfeit (+2 Communist China)

{Note: I didn't include forfeit in the points awarded list, but from now on it will be treated the same as dq.}

#6

PRIMO & CARLITO vs.
JAMIE NOBLE & CHAVO GUERRERO
WINNERS: Primo & Carlito via pin (+4 Communist China, +4 James Lofton)

#7

BIG SHOW vs. BATISTA - No.1 Contendership For WWE Title
WINNER: Batista via countout (+11 AtariLegend)


Rankings:

1. Axl Schwarzenegger 190
2. James Lofton 184
3. AtariLegend 136
4. Rex 132
5. Slashfro 110
6. 2008 Intentions 96
7. BLS-Pride 57
8. Communist China 33

Team Rankings:

1. AtariLegend & James Lofton 320
2. Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions 286
3. Rex & Slashfro 242
4. Communist China & BLS-Pride 90

Roster:

RAW

Brie Bella, Festus, Goldust, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jamie Noble, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes, Santino Marella, Sim Snukal

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Hornswoggle (Cruiserweight Champion), Jerry Lawler, Lilian Garcia, Linda McMahon, Michael Cole, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. McMahon, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Shane McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, Vickie Guerrero

ECW

DH Smith, DJ Gabriel, Hurricane Helms, Katie Lea Burchil, Matt Striker, Natalya, Paul Burchill, Tiffany, Tyson Kidd, Zack Ryder

Inactive/Non-Wreslting:

Ezekiel Jackson, Todd Grisham, Tony Atlas, Tony Chimel

SmackDown!

Alicia Fox, Candice, Charlie Haas, Curt Hawkins, Eve, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, JTG, Kung Fu Naki, Layla, Maria, Michelle McCool, Mike Knox, Ricky Ortiz, R-Truth, Shad

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Jim Ross, Justin Roberts, Ranjin Singh, Theodore Long

Other/Unavailable:

JBL, Jimmy Snuka, Joy Giovanni, Mickey Rourke, Miss Jackie, Molly Holly, Roddy Piper, Stone Cold, Sunny, Tazz, Torrie Wilson, Victoria

Released/Unavailable:


Jobbers/Unavailable

David Floridia, Frankie Sloan

Current Participants:

BLS-Pride: Shawn Michaels, Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, Vladimir Kozlov, Mark Henry
2008 Intentions: Finlay, Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion), Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>
Communist China: Shelton Benjamin, The Miz , John Morrison,
The Brian Kendrick, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion)
AtariLegend: Triple H, Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Batista, Evan Bourne, Umaga
James Lofton: Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), C.M. Punk, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Melina (Womens Champion), Tommy Dreamer
Slashfro: Chris Jericho, Jeff Hardy, Kane, Jack Swagger, William Regal
Axl Schwarzenegger: Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Christian (ECW Champion), Matt Hardy, Ted DiBiase Jr., Maryse (Divas Champion)
Rex: John Cena, Undertaker, The Great Khali, Cody Rhodes, Chavo Guerrero

Teams:

AtariLegend & James Lofton: Batista, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), C.M. Punk, Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), Evan Bourne, Melina (Womens Champion), Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Tommy Dreamer, Triple H, Umaga

Communist China & BLS-Pride: Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, John Morrison, Mark Henry, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Shawn Micheals, Shelton Benjamin (United States Champion), The Brian Kendrick, The Miz, Vladimir Kozlov

Rex & Slashfro:Chavo Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, Kane, The Great Khali, Undertaker, William Regal

Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions: Christian (ECW Champion), Finlay, Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Maryse (Divas Champion), Matt Hardy, Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion),
Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>, Ted DiBiase Jr.

#4425 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 915 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

TRIPLE H & BATISTA & SHANE MCMAHON vs.
RANDY ORTON & TED DIBIASE JR. & CODY RHODES - 3vs3 Tag Team Match, If Team Triple H Wins, Triple H Retains The Title, If Team Randy Orton Wins, Randy Orton Wins The Title (WWE Championship)
WINNERS: Randy Orton & Ted DiBiase Jr. & Cody Rhodes via pin (+52 Axl Schwarzenegger, +14 Rex)

+6 points gimmick match, +1 point because it's 3vs3 instead of the standard 2vs2, X2 because it's on PPV = 14 Ted DiBiase Jr

+6 points gimmick match, +1 point because it's 3vs3 instead of the standard 2vs2, +12 because Orton Won (WWE Championship), X2 because it's on PPV = 38 Randy Orton

Total = 52.

#4426 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 915 weeks ago

CC, you do realise even Neemo wasn't this bad?

#4427 Re: Guns N' Roses » Scraped Introduction Poll » 915 weeks ago

I'm surprised "Omaha '93" doesn't get discussed more; the final performance of "Coma" that is on the "Live Era" special edition, surprisingly when no bootlegs exist. Especially given that it obviously had more studio work done on it, than anything else.

#4428 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling II » 915 weeks ago

Blacklash (26-04-09)

#1

JACK SWAGGER vs. CHRISTIAN (ECW Championship)
WINNER: Christian via pin (+32 Axl Schwarzenegger)

#2

CHRIS JERICHO vs. RICKY STEAMBOAT
WINNER: Chris Jericho via submission (+8 Slashfro)

#3

C.M. PUNK vs. KANE
WINNER: Kane via pin (+8 Slashfro)

#4

MATT HARDY vs. JEFF HARDY - I Quit Match
WINNER: Jeff Hardy via gimmick win (+12 Slashfro)

#5

SANTINO MARELLA vs. BETH PHOENIX - Miss Wrestlemania Crown
WINNER: Santino Marella via pin

#6

TRIPLE H & BATISTA & SHANE MCMAHON vs.
RANDY ORTON & TED DIBIASE JR. & CODY RHODES - 3vs3 Tag Team Match, If Team Triple H Wins, Triple H Retains The Title, If Team Randy Orton Wins, Randy Orton Wins The Title (WWE Championship)
WINNERS: Randy Orton & Ted DiBiase Jr. & Cody Rhodes via pin (+52 Axl Schwarzenegger, +14 Rex)

#7

JOHN CENA vs. EDGE - Last Man Standing Match (World Heavyweight Championship)
WINNER: Edge via TKO (+46 James Lofton)


Rankings:

1. Axl Schwarzenegger 185
2. James Lofton 180
3. Rex 132
4. AtariLegend 124
5. Slashfro 110
6. 2008 Intentions 92
7. BLS-Pride 57
8. Communist China 27

Team Rankings:

1. AtariLegend & James Lofton 304
2. Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions 277
3. Rex & Slashfro 242
4. Communist China & BLS-Pride 84

Roster:

RAW

Brie Bella, Festus, Goldust, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jamie Noble, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Mickie James, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes, Santino Marella, Sim Snukal

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Hornswoggle (Cruiserweight Champion), Jerry Lawler, Lilian Garcia, Linda McMahon, Michael Cole, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. McMahon, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Shane McMahon, Stephanie McMahon, Vickie Guerrero

ECW

DH Smith, DJ Gabriel, Hurricane Helms, Katie Lea Burchil, Matt Striker, Natalya, Paul Burchill, Tiffany, Tyson Kidd, Zack Ryder

Inactive/Non-Wreslting:

Ezekiel Jackson, Todd Grisham, Tony Atlas, Tony Chimel

SmackDown!

Alicia Fox, Candice, Charlie Haas, Curt Hawkins, Eve, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, JTG, Kung Fu Naki, Layla, Maria, Michelle McCool, Mike Knox, Ricky Ortiz, R-Truth, Shad

Inactive/Non-Wrestling:

Jim Ross, Justin Roberts, Ranjin Singh, Theodore Long

Other/Unavailable:

JBL, Jimmy Snuka, Joy Giovanni, Mickey Rourke, Miss Jackie, Molly Holly, Roddy Piper, Stone Cold, Sunny, Tazz, Torrie Wilson, Victoria

Released/Unavailable:


Jobbers/Unavailable

David Floridia, Frankie Sloan

Current Participants:

BLS-Pride: Shawn Michaels, Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, Vladimir Kozlov, Mark Henry
2008 Intentions: Finlay, Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion), Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>
Communist China: Shelton Benjamin, The Miz , John Morrison,
The Brian Kendrick, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion)
AtariLegend: Triple H, Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Batista, Evan Bourne, Umaga
James Lofton: Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), C.M. Punk, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Melina (Womens Champion), Tommy Dreamer
Slashfro: Chris Jericho, Jeff Hardy, Kane, Jack Swagger, William Regal
Axl Schwarzenegger: Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Christian (ECW Champion), Matt Hardy, Ted DiBiase Jr., Maryse (Divas Champion)
Rex: John Cena, Undertaker, The Great Khali, Cody Rhodes, Chavo Guerrero

Teams:

AtariLegend & James Lofton: Batista, Carlito (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), C.M. Punk, Edge (World Heavyweight Champion), Evan Bourne, Melina (Womens Champion), Montel Vontavious Porter (United States Champion), Tommy Dreamer, Triple H, Umaga

Communist China & BLS-Pride: Big Show, Beth Phoenix <JBL>, John Morrison, Mark Henry, Primo (WWE Tag Team Champion, World Tag Team Champion), Shawn Micheals, Shelton Benjamin (United States Champion), The Brian Kendrick, The Miz, Vladimir Kozlov

Rex & Slashfro:Chavo Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, Kane, The Great Khali, Undertaker, William Regal

Axl Schwarzenegger & 2008 Intentions: Christian (ECW Champion), Finlay, Gail Kim, Kofi Kingston, Maryse (Divas Champion), Matt Hardy, Randy Orton (WWE Champion), Rey Mysterio (Intercontinental Champion),
Dolph Ziggler <R-Truth>, Ted DiBiase Jr.

#4429 Re: Guns N' Roses » Scraped Introduction Poll » 915 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:
russtcb wrote:

I honestly believe buzz made a good point last time around.

You agree with this?

buzzsaw wrote:

He couldn't find 25 songs that had good vocals all the way through over a 10 year period?

Did you read my post?

Yes, you said buzzsaw made some good points.

buzzsaw believes Axl is pretty bad live.

buzzsaw wrote:

Axl's pretty bad live.  The boots tell the story pretty accurately.  Most people will overlook it because either they can't hear him or they are so caught up in the moment that they just don't care.  That's how I was when I saw them.  Axl wasn't very good, but the show was so awesome it didn't really matter.

#4430 Re: Guns N' Roses » Scraped Introduction Poll » 915 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

He couldn't find 25 songs that had good vocals all the way through over a 10 year period?

Are you for real? Seriously there is no way you actually believe that.

Well, he didn't do it.  Instead, he chose to re-record the vocals or parts of the vocals.  You tell me why.

I don't know why. Especially given multiple examples of the band performing those songs better could be found.

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