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#441 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 207 weeks ago

James wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

I mean…that’s it….co-vid kills hundreds of thousands and those on the right shrug….selected and the right shrugs….and then selectively the right feigns outrage (i.e., Benghazi).

We’re talking about a few dozen deaths vs hundreds of thousands.

Proportionality should be a guideline to war….especially when the war is politically motivated.

The right created these problems at large….now they’re trying to blame the solutions on the left.

I missed this post.

You're really zig zagging all over the place.

Again with the Right=Bad, Left=Good mentality.

Are you unaware that Obama had two terms to wrap up the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts while not whipping up a couple more in Libya  and Syria? A few cherries and nuts on top with all the countries he used drone strikes on.

Why is it good when one side is behind the steering wheel and gets a free pass on any consequences?

Trump didn't start a single new conflict while in office...a first in modern times.

Now we're back to Benghazi? Count your lucky stars for that being turned into a partisan diversion. The Libya conflict was a massive clusterfuck that could've brought down Obama's presidency and ruined our standing in the world.

We were helping Al Qaeda on the ground,  the alliance was fracturing until we lucked into the Libyans capturing Qaddafi.

The country was then turned into a hellhole with slave markets. While slaves were being bought and sold, Hillary made jokes about Qaddafi being captured and killed.

For reasons unknown....you don't have a problem with this conflict. Your only issue is the red team talking about it.

My issue will always be Trump….so long as he’s involved in any team, i will be vehemently against whatever side he’s on.

Republicans will never be considered so long as his fat, lazy, golfing ass is pulling the strings behind the scenes.

#442 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 207 weeks ago

James wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

What are you talking about? Trump set 20 year old conflicts into motion and gets credited with turning the US into a hyper-power?

You give him more credit than his supporters do and it's like you think he's some kind of God.

If only one single president gets credited with setting the country on the path it took heading into the 21st century, it's Reagan.

When I said he set this all in motion, I meant that he didn't want to be the world's police anymore unless they ponied up to the table and started contributing....did he not do this?

Which is why you should be cheering him instead of having conniption fits.

You want us to stop being the world police too.

This right here is a great example of why people need to stop with the red/blue hyper-partisan warfare and blindly hating/loving something depending on its color.

You support his position without realizing you support his position....yet you voted for a war hawk who helped create and sell the Patriot Act and the two wars that followed.


I agreed with Trump regarding his stance on NATO... wanting them to contribute more...but he went a little too far IMO.

Didn't go too far for you though...he was on the right track.

No…Trump is not the answer to anything. It’s 1 step forward 2 steps back for him on everything. It was my position as a dumb ass college student 20 years ago. Trump took that stance for me then mocked and belittled people like me for being the problem.

Fuck Trump forever.

#443 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

James wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

Are you on crack?!?

In the 21st century in the aftermath of the Cold War, the United States became a hyper-power. There's everyone fighting for scraps at the bottom, Russia and China slightly above them, and the US miles above all of them.

While I agree the defense budget is getting a tad too high, gutting it is not the answer. There should be some cuts here and there but under no circumstances can we allow Russia, China, the EU, or any potential adversaries to move up as the US military goes in decline.

I would be for budget increases as long as it keeps US supremacy as the status quo.

You want to see a nightmare world? Place any country that's not the US in the number one spot.

We're about to remind the world who's boss with the unveiling of one of our classified space weapons. We can only have such weapons in our arsenal thanks to the bloated defense budget.

Zero return on our investment? You're crazy...

If our foreign policy requires that we occupy the foreign world indefinitely then that’s not a solution.

Trump set all this shit in motion…he would have celebrated all this as a victory.

What are you talking about? Trump set 20 year old conflicts into motion and gets credited with turning the US into a hyper-power?

You give him more credit than his supporters do and it's like you think he's some kind of God.

If only one single president gets credited with setting the country on the path it took heading into the 21st century, it's Reagan.

When I said he set this all in motion, I meant that he didn't want to be the world's police anymore unless they ponied up to the table and started contributing....did he not do this?

I didn't mean he said world history in motion for centuries.

#444 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

James wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

When are we going to address the obscene money the government throws at our military to do nothing except occupy foreign countries. What other industry do you get to retire after 20 years with a full pension and benefits? The military industrial complex is the single most bloated piece of the budget in our country. We've gotten almost zero return on that investment as a country.

Are you on crack?!?

In the 21st century in the aftermath of the Cold War, the United States became a hyper-power. There's everyone fighting for scraps at the bottom, Russia and China slightly above them, and the US miles above all of them.

While I agree the defense budget is getting a tad too high, gutting it is not the answer. There should be some cuts here and there but under no circumstances can we allow Russia, China, the EU, or any potential adversaries to move up as the US military goes in decline.

I would be for budget increases as long as it keeps US supremacy as the status quo.

You want to see a nightmare world? Place any country that's not the US in the number one spot.

We're about to remind the world who's boss with the unveiling of one of our classified space weapons. We can only have such weapons in our arsenal thanks to the bloated defense budget.

Zero return on our investment? You're crazy...

If our foreign policy requires that we occupy the foreign world indefinitely then that’s not a solution.

Trump set all this shit in motion…he would have celebrated all this as a victory.

#445 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

I mean…that’s it….co-vid kills hundreds of thousands and those on the right shrug….selected and the right shrugs….and then selectively the right feigns outrage (i.e., Benghazi).

We’re talking about a few dozen deaths vs hundreds of thousands.

Proportionality should be a guideline to war….especially when the war is politically motivated.

The right created these problems at large….now they’re trying to blame the solutions on the left.

#446 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

I mean you can think whatever you want....you were awfully quiet during all the bullshit in Syria and you didn't utter one word about the people dying in the middle east and Asia over the past 5 years.

I think it's quite opportunist that you basically keep making the same post over and over again.

Lumping Russia collusion into this for some random ass reason is laughable and shows me you're only interested in stirring the pot.

When are we going to address the obscene money the government throws at our military to do nothing except occupy foreign countries. What other industry do you get to retire after 20 years with a full pension and benefits? The military industrial complex is the single most bloated piece of the budget in our country. We've gotten almost zero return on that investment as a country.

#447 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

If you look back fondly on how Trump handled anything i deeply question your judgment.

#448 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R 2021 Tour Thread » 208 weeks ago

James wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

I'm supposed to go see them at Wrigley in a few days...I've never been less excited for a Gn'R concert. I'm seriously considering looking into selling the tickets.

Just go.... there's a small chance that your show gets the debut of Hard School.


Having said that...I have no room to talk. I skipped the show here in Cali.

I did decide to go btw…and believe or not you partially influenced that.

#449 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

Aaaaaand right on queue Don boy calls California recall election rigged. This guy is a walking, talking shit stain of a human being.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-releas … 41602.html

#450 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 208 weeks ago

Gavin Newsome easily wins recall election...by an enormous margin at that...

Caitlyn Jenner gets 1%...

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