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#4611 Re: The Garden » 2017 Predictions » 506 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

GNR will let us down even more in 2017. Sure the shows will be cool but they will still play the fucking Seeker and Axl will refuse to release ANYTHING except ugly Tshirts and Jackets.

Trump will have ups and downs in year one.

Stock Market will stay stagnant and just say in that 19,500-20,500 range.

US Economy will continue to improve

US home sales will slow a bit with Interest rate hikes.  But will be a short term slow down.

Curious, when interest rates go up on home sales/mortgage...how does that effect the housing market in general? Will the value of my home go up or down?

Rates hikes make the pool of purchasers smaller. However if everyone started making more money it could be offset. A small hike won't matter. But a big jump in rates could have a big slow down. I hope for rates should be in the 4% range. I fear over 5% will hurt.

I have a 20 year mortgage at 4.4 %...I'm about 2.5 years into it. I'm trying to be smart with this investment.

#4612 Re: The Garden » The Rant Thread » 506 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

If I have to see one more scantly clad woman on a stage calling herself an artist I'm gonna puke. It's just...are we all that entertained by mostly naked women that we call it art now? Will people ever get satiated to this?

This is not exactly the same as Britney Spears or Madonna, but I know an extremely beautiful model who has to do this kind of modeling herself in between jobs for art just to pay her monthly rent.

Sometimes people need money. It's the society that we live in.

yeah...I'm gathering that I'm well in the minority on this considering no one commented.

But IMHO, that's not working....it's not hard to be a woman and stand around naked for money. That's not work. Washing dishes is work...cooking food is work...stocking shelves is work...but being a woman and living off your looks is not work.

#4613 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

It's not retarded....it's socialism. A form of government that exists successfully all over the world. Here's where I get so confused. I've seen you post about the rising costs of higher education and ridicule the current system. There are other options to consider to ameliorate this problem. You could remove government student loans....or you could do what Bernie suggested.

I stand by my comments. You're a Bernie supporter. You made that clear at the start. Here are some of your comments during the election. Read them now and you'll see why they're problematic for the DNC and why they knew Sanders supporters were a liability that needs to be kept at arms length.

"I dunno...I don't know if the U.S. deserves to survive. Not in its current form anyway. If this is really the best the world can do...I think I'm disappointed."

"who cares what the minn. wage is....ain't no one but the bottom of the barrel gonna work for that....and then they're gonna go do crack on their time off and miss work the next day"

"James, PaSnow....others....
If you learn conservative, and you truly believe Trump has lost....I would have to turn to outrage if I were you.
There is no excuse for Trump to have 1 office in Florida while Clinton has 50+. There is literally no excuse. This is a state that is won by a few thousand votes some times. He wasted a lot of time, money and resources. He wasted an election cycle. Now Republicans might be asking, "how bad is the damage going to be." In other words, who else is Trump going to cost during this election cycle? Democrats have the inside track to take back the Senate. It's not a sure thing by any means...but Trump is helping the cause."

"Do you know why? Hillary doesn't do any interviews because she doesn't have to.
That's how garbage Donald is as a candidate.
Hillary is kneeling the ball in the third quarter."

"I'm sick of this. I don't care how corrupt or terrible Hillary is which has far less facts to support it then obviously all of the Donald's, if you want to make your decisions based on propaganda then go right ahead.
If Donald went to the White House and called Obama a nigger and raped Michelle you guys would support it.
I support Hillary even with all of the alleged corruption."


"He will not win Wisconsin there's no chance. Wisconsin is weird because they have Scott Walker at governor. But Trump didn't even come close to winning the primary there. He is not well liked in Wisconsin."

I'm not sure what your point is here other than posting shit where I predicted things incorrectly...but I do stand by what I have said. I Think the Republican party is full of vile, disgusting, hypocritical white men who don't give a fuck about you or this country. What they care about is their wallet and their investments in wall street. They don't give a shit about anything else..."fuck the planet and fuck you too"

I am a firm believer that this country's mantra is "hooray for me and fuck you." I am not impressed by this culture and I see it for what it is...the greatest system for building wealth ever created. That doesn't make it moral or ethical or even 'good' in the eyes of God.

Remember...always remember...politics is not about doing what's right....it's about doing what's popular. Now, more than ever, hatred and negativity is the lay of the land.

Wisconsin is not the place I grew up in anymore. Everyone hates each other. Neighbors who used to be friendly don't talk. I don't have friends anymore who supported Scott Walker. These people are the arm pit of the country...and they all got together in the spirit of negativity not to help themselves...but to take things away from other people. The American people in 2017 would rather hurt you than help themselves.

I also watched Trump supporters hate Hillary to the point of wanting to kill her and laud Trump for the same behavior....it's a gross mentality.

#4614 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

It's not retarded....it's socialism. A form of government that exists successfully all over the world. Here's where I get so confused. I've seen you post about the rising costs of higher education and ridicule the current system. There are other options to consider to ameliorate this problem. You could remove government student loans....or you could do what Bernie suggested.

I stand by my comments. You're a Bernie supporter. You made that clear at the start. Here are some of your comments during the election. Read them now and you'll see why they're problematic for the DNC and why they knew Sanders supporters were a liability that needs to be kept at arms length.

"I dunno...I don't know if the U.S. deserves to survive. Not in its current form anyway. If this is really the best the world can do...I think I'm disappointed."

"who cares what the minn. wage is....ain't no one but the bottom of the barrel gonna work for that....and then they're gonna go do crack on their time off and miss work the next day"

"James, PaSnow....others....
If you learn conservative, and you truly believe Trump has lost....I would have to turn to outrage if I were you.
There is no excuse for Trump to have 1 office in Florida while Clinton has 50+. There is literally no excuse. This is a state that is won by a few thousand votes some times. He wasted a lot of time, money and resources. He wasted an election cycle. Now Republicans might be asking, "how bad is the damage going to be." In other words, who else is Trump going to cost during this election cycle? Democrats have the inside track to take back the Senate. It's not a sure thing by any means...but Trump is helping the cause."

"Do you know why? Hillary doesn't do any interviews because she doesn't have to.
That's how garbage Donald is as a candidate.
Hillary is kneeling the ball in the third quarter."

"I'm sick of this. I don't care how corrupt or terrible Hillary is which has far less facts to support it then obviously all of the Donald's, if you want to make your decisions based on propaganda then go right ahead.
If Donald went to the White House and called Obama a nigger and raped Michelle you guys would support it.
I support Hillary even with all of the alleged corruption."


"He will not win Wisconsin there's no chance. Wisconsin is weird because they have Scott Walker at governor. But Trump didn't even come close to winning the primary there. He is not well liked in Wisconsin."

I'm not sure what your point is here other than posting shit where I predicted things incorrectly...but I do stand by what I have said. I Think the Republican party is full of vile, disgusting, hypocritical white men who don't give a fuck about you or this country. What they care about is their wallet and their investments in wall street. They don't give a shit about anything else..."fuck the planet and fuck you too"

I am a firm believer that this country's mantra is "hooray for me and fuck you." I am not impressed by this culture and I see it for what it is...the greatest system for building wealth ever created. That doesn't make it moral or ethical or even 'good' in the eyes of God.

Remember...always remember...politics is not about doing what's right....it's about doing what's popular. Now, more than ever, hatred and negativity is the lay of the land.

Wisconsin is not the place I grew up in anymore. Everyone hates each other. Neighbors who used to be friendly don't talk. I don't have friends anymore who supported Scott Walker. These people are the arm pit of the country...and they all got together in the spirit of negativity not to help themselves...but to take things away from other people. The American people in 2017 would rather hurt you than help themselves.

#4615 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

I have no problem with the DNC working to keep Sanders off their ballot. Sanders isn't a democrat. He had done nothing to benefit the party or its candidates. I can't think of anyone who has done more for the DNC than the Clinton's. the amount of money and campaign assistance they've provided the past 30 years is unprecedented. There is no doubt where their loyalties lie. Sanders isn't even decent enough to change his party affiliation to the DNC. So I get why Schultz and the party didn't want Sanders taking advantage of their infrastructure.

You could say the exact same things about Trump without changing a word...

One party manipulated the process and the other did not...look who won. I tell you what though...us registered Dems already knew this...we didn't need Russia to tell us.

The question you really need to wonder about is; why would Russia spend the resources of a feeble and weak economic country on a US presidential election. And....are they waiting for a return on their investment?

But the DNC wants to exploit the retards who think a $15 minimum wage and free college and healthcare for all is feasible.

It's not retarded....it's socialism. A form of government that exists successfully all over the world. Here's where I get so confused. I've seen you post about the rising costs of higher education and ridicule the current system. There are other options to consider to ameliorate this problem. You could remove government student loans....or you could do what Bernie suggested.

Higher education is a necessity in modern society. We've got plenty of ditch diggers in this country. We're behind in science and math. There's a reason we let doctors and scientists come here from other countries. It's because we're too lazy to make our own.

Put that in your red, white and blue pipe and smoke it!

Conservatives love their country so much...but when it comes time to talk about our country as a collective whole...they don't care...they have a disdain for environmental scientists....they don't give a shit about the shortage of higher education professions. They herald a guy and elected a president that gloats about "being smart" by avoiding paying his fair share of taxes. The common good means nothing to that party.

#4616 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

I am still glad the hacks happened. The end result justified the means. We found out how shady and corrupt our folks can be. It is a shame that Russia had to reveal this. Russia is not our friend. They "shouldn't" have hacked but the info we got was valuable.

The question you should be asking is...why didn't they reveal Trump's tax returns...or anything about Trump for that matter...

If you're going to hack...you must have an agenda....

#4617 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

So intelligence is reporting that Putin was directly involved in sending the order to influence the US election...and Trump supporters don't want any of it. It's all a lie and a fabrication by Dems and Obama...

This is what makes me so frusterated....this isn't a problem for people who voted for Trump because winning at all costs is all that matters. Real patriots of this country should have serious concern right now. But half the country is just focused on getting the damn ni**er out of office.

#4618 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

How many meetings did Obama attend each day in Hawaii?

It's a non issue.

roll

Quit bringing up Obama or Hillary. We are talking about Trump!!! It's always Obama Obama Obama with you. It's all you can ever do. That and BLM. It's like you can't help youself.

Obama had 6 briefings per week if you must know. Trump does one because he's "smart."


Explain why he needs a briefing everyday?  So Obama had an intelligence briefing 6/7 days while on vacation. Did the experts fly to Hawaii?  You're making an issue out of nothing. Why does the President need a formal daily brief?

I think it would give me more confidence that he's taking this seriously...and making decisions based of as much of the facts that are known instead of just shooting from the hip all the time.

If you were given $1 Million in 1970 and just shot from the hip....you would have a huge margin of error for bad decisions. And the only one who suffered was Trump for being ill-informed. Now, we're all gonna suffer.

He's just not taking the job that seriously...he's gonna be a part-time president...he'll show up every time there's a camera though.

#4619 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 506 weeks ago

It still doesn't detract from the fact that the same people who villified Hillary for her unethical ways are the same people who want to do away with watch dog groups that keep everyone in-line.

Why does the Republican Party have to behave this way? It makes me loath all of them.

Especially in light of the fact that you could interpret trumps words as that it's only the timing he opposes.

#4620 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 507 weeks ago

Trump scolded congress for dissololving ethics board....I give him credit

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