Apparently Obama and Trump talked after all this and are cool again, mixed signals, yet again.

Is it really necessary or beneficial for Obama to keep saying he would have won the election should he have run again or take jabs at trump implying we shouldn't be tribal or some shit?  Not everything has to be some hidden message to trump. Obama seems to have a huge fucking ego. He is acting NOTHING like George Bush in regards to not criticizing the President Elect.

mitchejw wrote:

Randall Flagg wrote:

Right, cause people in San Francisco aren't opining and trying to legislate laws that only effect Wyoming. Pelosi is really pushing for wolves to be introduced into downtown SF and not just by ranchers in the Rocky Mountain region.

Obama didn't just try to permanently prevent anyone from ever drilling off the Alaskan coast. (His edict won't hold up in court).

States are a thing. Wyoming's 3 EVs have no influence on Californians.

If we were consistently following the EC formula...Wyoming wouldn't even have 3 EVs.

We are though.  The constitution is quite clear every state has 2 senators and an amount of representatives based on population with no less than 1.  If you want to start a discussion about dissolving the Senate and relying only on the House, I'll be interested in joining you.  But until we amend the constitution, that is how it works.

misterID wrote:

Randall Flagg wrote:

No, I don't support it because it favors Republicans.  I favor it because that's what the constitution says and I like the concept of states.  Look at how skewed California is in their voting in this past election.  Almost 62% of the state voted for her whereas the nation as a whole was split almost 50/50.  States have their own culture and beliefs, so just because California has ballooned the past 50 years or so, doesn't mean its culture should dictate how folks in Wyoming live.  California alone accounts for 10% of the EC, so it's getting its fair representation in a system that recognizes states. 

And this wouldn't even have been an issue if Clinton ran a competent campaign and stepped foot in Wisconsin and spent any time in PA and Michigan outside of Philly and Detroit.

It would have no influence on how people in Wyoming live. Jesus Christ, that's a weak ass, scared as shit way of thinking. I have a way better argument that the people in Wyoming shouldn't be dictating the way California and everyone else lives. Yes, she should have campaigned better, as I voiced, but she still won by three million votes. *President Trump is still acting like a moron, putting together one of the worst cabinets in history. Linda McMahon is getting a cabinet position. The woman who couldn't buy a legit political seat.... TWICE. But because her husband is one of his best friends... Cronyism at its best.

Right, cause people in San Francisco aren't opining and trying to legislate laws that only effect Wyoming. Pelosi is really pushing for wolves to be introduced into downtown SF and not just by ranchers in the Rocky Mountain region.

Obama didn't just try to permanently prevent anyone from ever drilling off the Alaskan coast. (His edict won't hold up in court).

States are a thing. Wyoming's 3 EVs have no influence on Californians.