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#4681 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 510 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:Can we have an agreement we will no longer post unsubstantiated stories from murky, unknown and plain out crazy news websites?
That's going to leave you short of sources I think.
Unless you really meant to say "websites not pushing a liberal narrative".
That would rob them of anything from Media Matters, Salon, HuffPo, Vox and MotherJones to name a few. Then any of their random OpEd pieces where some parent who promised their child the world is now in tears and telling their kid to stay strong as they're sent to Auschwitz.
This is absurd RF...you were posting plenty of fake news and even blogs last summer.
I think it's time we all take responsibility.
#4682 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 510 weeks ago
I think the more important question is how often/when we've allowed fake knowledge to influence our own line of thinking.
RF and SG are just as guilty as I or anyone else. That map of the election by county is pure propaganda that was posted by the Trump supporters.
I no longer click on mother jones articles.
I am much more critical of my news sources than I ever was....
But none of this explains/justifies Trump....
Paul Ryan is continually sucking his dick in the media. Should I believe that?
#4683 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 510 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:It answers that you didn't read it;
From the Hillary article;
second paragraph;
It isn't yet clear how that hacking would have taken place, in such a way to ensure that Donald Trump won the vote
final paragraph;
probably weren't a consequence of the cyber attack
You're posting stuff from twitter pollux without reading it.
I posted two headlines. Did you read them? I see one of them saying 'no' and the other saying 'yes' on the exact same subject, a couple of weeks apart. The headline is the most important part of the article because the majority of readers don't go beyond it. So I have presented you with a crystal clear example of media mental gymnastics.
And when I do give you the courtesy and take the 5 minutes reading that rubbish, the articles both clearly state that election fraud in October was highly improbable, while now it is certainly possible. Nowhere was it implied that either of these definitely did or did not take place, which is the dichotomy you need to declare all of this 'false'.
It truly is click bait...not an ounce of substance - maybe 500 words to say almost nothing.
#4684 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
I wish I could be impressed by this...I just truly don't think any of this matters.
I've already given up on Trump....what a tool...everything I hate about my own country personified in one human being.
He will have nothing but my criticism and disdain for the next 4 years.
He is not my president.
#4685 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
Trump talks to Taiwan, which we haven't had diplomatic ties with since the 1970s. I'm sure China is happy.
Trump tells Pakistan he wants to visit and he'll do what he can to help them. I'm sure their enemy India is happy.
Trump praises and talks with the dictator of Kazakhstan. I'm sure all of Western Europe is happy.
Trump isn't even president yet and is worse at foreign policy than Obama ever was.
I also don't recall someone acting as president before being president...
Let's be honest, why would somebody be in favor of this Trump deal with carrier? But also the adamantly opposed to the dealings of 2008 and 2009? What the fuck is going on anymore?
#4686 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
And now he's drunk dialing Chima....
He's just kicking so much ass, lately...
I've never invested money in the stock market and never will...I don't believe in it... if I wanted to gamble like that I would just go to the casino
#4687 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
The more I learn about this "deal" Trump made, the worse it looks...what a terrible, terrible precedent Trump has set.
Anyone who feels good about this must have a pretty loose asshole.
#4688 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:Gimme a break. I'm all for union reform, but we have unions because big business has shown over and over again they cannot be trusted and continually fuck over their workers, even tothe point of putting their health and well being in jeopardy. He didn't do a mother fucking thing to save those jobs. Pence did. Pence is governor of the state. He is paying this company, with Indiana tax payers covering the bill, in an already cash strapped state. Trump has zero authority to make this deal. It could totally be possible this was a deal that was agreed to before he made Pence VP. I'm happy those workers are keeping their jobs, but it's only for "right now" it doesn't mean they will keep those jobs.
And if makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about the dow, well consider this: it's up because they're betting on the fact that Trump lied to his base and loaded his cabinet with Goldman Sachs executives who will roll back as many regulations as possible, including Mnuchin who likes to buy struggling banks just so he can foreclose on thousands of people because its easy money, and a billionaire can always use more money by destroying people. The very people who force these companies to squeeze every penny they can to increase profit margins so they outsource. That's not unions, bubba, that's Wall Street execs who would rather pay a Mexican a months wages that they would have to pay an American in a week. They're betting on a wild west Wall Street where the lunatics run the asylum, where MORE companies will outsource. Have fun on that.
https://news.grabien.com/story-flashbac … r-plant-us
Guess Pence is his magic wand then. What does crow taste like?
He just nominated the greatest general since Vietnam to lead the defense department. A general has been nominated for his National Security adviser. Petraeus is still in the run for State.
America is going to flex its muscles once again. This guy could be Reagan, and remember I voted against him.
It would be nice to have a President who puts America first again and actually gets shit done that makes it better for everyone who's an actual citizen.
What crow are you talking about? That he made a good PR move?
The rest HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This is stupid...you really think he waved a magic wand and go them to stay? Or did he bend over and take it in the ass in order to get them to stay?
And the Petreus thing I think you're talking about....so all that shit about Hillary's e-mails for years and then this?! He manipulated a bunch of douche bag racists, backed off on most of the things he said he wanted to do as soon as he was elected...and everyone in his base appears ok with this...
The hypocrisy is making it hard to breath in this country. The fickle, fickle American people are getting exactly what they wanted....a smoke and mirrors show.
#4689 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
Guys, it worked on this one so far. This will help 1,000 folks have a better Christmas. I don't care what they did to keep them here, they did it. Obviously it can't be ridiculous but this was a good thing no doubt.
"these jobs are goin' boys....and they ain't coming back....to your hometown...."
Bruce Sprinsteen
#4690 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 511 weeks ago
She lost some weight since the blue dress incident. I would probably grudge fuck her hard.
Make grudge fucking great again SG!
