mitchejw wrote:

Randall Flagg wrote:

From your article:

"Voter turnout in this year's presidential primary was the highest since 1972 with voter ID in place, so to now suggest turnout was down in the general election because of it is wrong," Evenson said. "We have made voting easy while ensuring it is hard to cheat. Lower turnout in the general election was true nationwide. It was not unique to Wisconsin or voter ID."

Albrecht acknowledged that some of the drop-off in turnout had to do with the candidates and less enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. He also did not have statistics detailing how many voters were turned away for not having the proper ID."

So we see a lower turnout compared to 2012 nationwide, but the article wants to blame voter ID in Wisconsin. It also points to low income areas of Milwaukee, which surprise, turned out nationwide in surprisingly lower numbers than they did in 2012.

Clinton was a bad candidate and represented everything people hate about D.C.  You think Clinton knows who Rogers is?  Think she's drinking a beer while eating some cheese talking about what model Harley she prefers? Milwaukee and Wisconsin in general is a bastion of white working class who heavily favored Trump.

This is why. If you guys go full retard and align yourselves with Warren and Sanders types for 2020, you'll have a repeat.  Quit looking to liberal elites who couldn't change their own oil. Accept that Clinton was such a shit candidate, half the country voted for the guy who hosted a reality TV show over her.

I don't interpret that quote the same way you do....it's where votes "disappeared" that matters...and I'm talking about state governments who get to create their own rules for voting systems....where is your evidence of "cheating" anyway? I have never seen any evidence...except that scattered republican voters who voted twice in the last 4 years. I didn't ever hear you condemn that RF...

Essentially what you're saying is my choice in this country is between Republican lite and Republican?

You say that about "liberal elite" but what about your precious conservative elites? We just elected the most elite of the elite!

I will not be put in the position of defending Hillary....

I didn't say they cheated, the article did. But someone wearing a burka was able to get Huma Abedin's manhattan ballot because they don't require ID. Every state has public voting rolls that show the last time someone voted. If all you require is a Comcast bill with a matching name on it, that's a huge gaping hole in our elections that could easily be manipulated.  From a simple integrity perspective, controls should be in place. Anyone caught violating our election laws should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of party. I could link numerous examples of democratic voter fraud, but if you're interested just google it. Here is a generic issue from the Washington post citing examples:  http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/ … ts-all-to/

I didn't vote for Trump remember. I voted for Kasich in the primary and would have voted for Rubio next. Hardly elites of the GOP and world. Wasn't Rubio criticized during the debates for being 180k or so in debt?  Meanwhile Clinton left the White House with Millions in the bank and told reporters they were almost bankrupt.  Bernie just closed on his 3rd house by the way, but I wouldn't call him elite.