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#4771 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
How about these protests tonight? What a fucking joke.
It's not a joke...these people have a right to be upset...popular vote and all...but I do agree it won't change anything.
#4772 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
Hindsight is 20/20 I guess...
But I'll tell you what....the Wasserman-Schultz/DNC/Clinton fiasco was an enormous self inflicted wound that perhaps wasn't given the attention it deserves.
At least the Republicans followed through with Donald Trump. The DNC manipulated things to make Hillary the winner of the primaries much to the chagrin of their own party.
Hey...was I edited/revised?
#4773 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
Hindsight is 20/20 I guess...
But I'll tell you what....the Wasserman-Schultz/DNC/Clinton fiasco was an enormous self inflicted wound that perhaps wasn't given the attention it deserves.
At least the Republicans followed through with Donald Trump. The DNC manipulated things to make Hillary the winner of the primaries much to the chagrin of their own party.
#4774 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Way to learn nothing from what has happened!
Markets are up this morning. So much for that doom and gloom...
What is their to learn? You act as though the Republican Party has reinvented itself.
You're not even trying to learn from this. Step back. You seem to think you're really smart. Prove it. There's something to learn from everything.
Alright, this is my attempt. You have to understand that emotions are running high right now and I acknowledge that I am saturated with these emotions.
At the same time, I do believe in democracy and if that means Trump is president, then I accept it. Even if it means I am in the minority for the foreseeable future. I still believe in my values and I will not be swayed in one direction or the other because of the results of the election. Again, I accept my role as being a representative of the minority and I accept all of the things that go along with being in the minority.
I have never been critical of our "2-party system" in the context that in all honestly, in a perfect world, it's the things that we do together in the 2 party system that result in the best outcomes for everyone. And in all honesty, that is what I want. I do not want anyone to suffer. I want to believe that Republicans have my personal best interests at heart, as well as the group of us that we call United States' citizens as a whole. I'm skeptical.
I do want to personally apologize to Randall Flagg. I once wrote in this thread that "he had contributed nothing" to this country without really having known him. I couldn't be more incorrect. I apologize for letting the heat of the moment and my emotions to get the best of me. Right now, you and SG and a few others on this thread have your fingers on the pulse of something that escapes at the moment. That matters and it should be acknowledged.
Allow me to be self-indulgent for a moment. I am a business owner. I am responsible for a modest sized group of people who make me look good on a daily basis. I am responsible for federal and state unemployment payments, liability insurance, health insurance for some, mileage reimbursements....and all sorts of other obligations that I not only take very seriously, I also have nothing but gratitude for the fact that I am in the position that I am...
In the end, I still believe in what I believe in....and I will still fight for the things that I believe in...I think someone in this thread asked me once if there was anything I thought was worth fighting for....I have/am/will fight for a single mom of 3 who raised me, my brother and my sister on a minimum wage job. It's not so much for her, but for the future mitchejws. We would not have made it without food stamps and medicaid. And if it matters, my mother was so ashamed to have to apply for and use food stamps. But by no fault of my own or anyone else's my father decided to abandon us and leave us to fend for ourselves. That's something worth fighting for...and it was government that saved us on more than one occasion. These are programs that so many conservatives loath.
I'll leave you with this....the outlet that this board gives me on so many topics has been incredibly important to me over the years. It's hard to believe that I only know you all by your screen names. I can count on one hand the number of friends I have in "real" life. I keep coming back here for a reason. I am thankful for this place.
#4775 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
I love when people try to use education (or lack tehreof) as an excuse for why their candidate lost. The least educated demographic in this country are Blacks who have a <50% high school graduation rate. And they overwhelmingly vote Democratic and have for 100 years. When the least educated are a core part of your constituency, you lose all credibility attack the intelligence/education of the other party.
I'm commenting on a demographic that is consistently referred to through all media....liberal and conservative leaning. This is not an insult.
#4776 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:The uneducated white vote came out in droves today.
"college-educated whites went for Trump, 49-45 percent."
thats not the margin that won it for him
#4777 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
Way to learn nothing from what has happened!
Markets are up this morning. So much for that doom and gloom...
What is their to learn? You act as though the Republican Party has reinvented itself.
#4778 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:A Private Eye wrote:Unbelievable result. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. He has a blank canvas in a way, as his campaign seems to have been based around nice sound bites and saying stuffs going to be great again he can pretty much go in whatever direction he pleases.
Never ceases to amaze how powerful a slogan 'lets get our country back' seems to be to certain folks. They used it for brexit without anybody really stopping and asking what it means and it's worked for Trump as well. I guess both sides of the pond are about to find out.
Our country back from whom?
From the Democratic party that has been importing voters since the 60s. No more anchor babies - the only reason they get citizenship now is because Johnson declared them citizens. Trump can change all of that and Congress will back him. Your dreams of turning texas Blue by an open gate of new DNC voters just shit the bed.
It's time to get on board. The Democratic party had its ass knocked the fuck out last night. No more pretending men can become women with the stroke of a pen. All those illiterate Syrians Clinton wanted to bring in, they'll never step on our soil.
8 years ago you all claimed the GOP was done for a generation. How many pundits and experts predicted complete Democratic control for the next 30 years? Everything Obama accomplished is going to be erased with a couple signatures. Obama will be a President kids spend 2 days on during February every year.
So do what all of us did 8 years ago when you guys thought Obama was going to be the 2nd coming. Support the president and look at each issue on its own. The Democrats already set precedent by removing the filibuster. Obama expanded the role of the executive. Time to reap what you sow.
In the end, all the fake shock and awe around Trump wasn't enough to fool most of America into recognizing Hillary Clinton was as corrupt, manipulative and secretive as any candidate has ever been. Her name and face will never appear on any currency and she'll stain the credibility of her party for the next 10 years.
That's all find and dandy I guess. But at the end of the day, it's still have our country to. And I refuse to line behind the biggot that is Donald trump. My work starts tomorrow in exposing the Republican Party for what it is. I will get involved add a grassroots level. I will spend exactly 0 time supporting this agenda.
I refuse to except the mantra parade for me and fuck you. That is the Republican mantra.
#4779 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
Unbelievable result. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. He has a blank canvas in a way, as his campaign seems to have been based around nice sound bites and saying stuffs going to be great again he can pretty much go in whatever direction he pleases.
Never ceases to amaze how powerful a slogan 'lets get our country back' seems to be to certain folks. They used it for brexit without anybody really stopping and asking what it means and it's worked for Trump as well. I guess both sides of the pond are about to find out.
Our country back from whom?
#4780 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 514 weeks ago
I am up at 4AM...I'm completely dejected. I cannot find one redeeming quality about this man. I hate knowing that I live in a country where this man is considered a leader of any kind.
The uneducated white vote came out in droves today.
